Waggle Help
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02-01-2006, 10:22 AM
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Waggle Help
I'm new to TMG but i've read enough to understand my current waggle over the ball is no good. It involves just bending and straightening the right wrist, which i believe is an action that should be discouraged.
So i'm looking to replace my existing waggle with the TMG one.
I've read there are two waggles and address waggle and a downstroke waggle. As i'm looking for a waggle over the ball i presume it's the address waggle i should be using. It says on 3-F-5 of the book that:
The Address Waggle is a miniature reproduction of the action of the Zone #2 components through Impact
This has me very confused. As Zone #2 is the arms does this mean no wrist action is involved? As a swinger this would concern me as i feel i need to waggle my wrists at address to keep them relaxed.
I'm also confused about the pictures showing the waggle on 9-2-3 #2 and 9-2-3 #3. The back stroke waggle (9-2-3 #2) clearly shows the right wrist is bent, but on the down stroke waggle (9-2-3 #3) it has straightened. Is this right?
If anybody could give me a better idea of what the waggle entails and answer my questions in the process i'd be very grateful.
Cheers,
Danny
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02-01-2006, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
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I'm new to TMG but i've read enough to understand my current waggle over the ball is no good. It involves just bending and straightening the right wrist, which i believe is an action that should be discouraged.
So i'm looking to replace my existing waggle with the TMG one.
I've read there are two waggles and address waggle and a downstroke waggle. As i'm looking for a waggle over the ball i presume it's the address waggle i should be using. It says on 3-F-5 of the book that:
The Address Waggle is a miniature reproduction of the action of the Zone #2 components through Impact
This has me very confused. As Zone #2 is the arms does this mean no wrist action is involved? As a swinger this would concern me as i feel i need to waggle my wrists at address to keep them relaxed.
I'm also confused about the pictures showing the waggle on 9-2-3 #2 and 9-2-3 #3. The back stroke waggle (9-2-3 #2) clearly shows the right wrist is bent, but on the down stroke waggle (9-2-3 #3) it has straightened. Is this right?
If anybody could give me a better idea of what the waggle entails and answer my questions in the process i'd be very grateful.
Cheers,
Danny
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Appleby, in Hawaii, was demonstrating a great TGM waggle. It was an arms waggle. You are VERY correct that you would want to eliminate the hands waggle. The horizontal bending of the wrists is never something that you want to program into the computer. 9-2-3 #3 is not the best picture, in my opinion.
In 9-2, Homer says, "Execution of a Preselected Stroke should be identical with or without a ball to avoid "throwing away" the Clubhead power when actually playing."
With regard to swinging and starting from Standard Address, the left wrist is bent and the right wrist is flat. The flying wedges are assembled in Start Up. Once the left wrist becomes flat, it remains flat "with or without a ball".
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02-01-2006, 11:15 AM
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If you use an "arm waggle", this allows you to rehearse the alignment of the flying wedges, extensor action, monitor pressure points and tracing the delivery line with your right forearm.
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02-01-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EdStraker
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If you use an "arm waggle", this allows you to rehearse the alignment of the flying wedges, extensor action, monitor pressure points and tracing the delivery line with your right forearm.
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That's "Homer's waggle" - 
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02-01-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Appleby, in Hawaii, was demonstrating a great TGM waggle. It was an arms waggle. You are VERY correct that you would want to eliminate the hands waggle. The horizontal bending of the wrists is never something that you want to program into the computer. 9-2-3 #3 is not the best picture, in my opinion.
In 9-2, Homer says, "Execution of a Preselected Stroke should be identical with or without a ball to avoid "throwing away" the Clubhead power when actually playing."
With regard to swinging and starting from Standard Address, the left wrist is bent and the right wrist is flat. The flying wedges are assembled in Start Up. Once the left wrist becomes flat, it remains flat "with or without a ball".
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Luke . . . Are you applying strong Extensor Action during your TGM arm waggle?
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02-01-2006, 12:58 PM
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm still having a bit of difficulty picturing exactly what is needed. Does anybody know of a video clip of a TGM waggle anywhere? it would help alot.
If not i've got a few more questions:
Should there be any wrist break in a waggle? From what YodasLuke says wouldn't swingers starting from a standard address have to then break their wrists to rehearse their flying wedges in their waggle?
Is it ok to stop the waggle before the ball? I ask this because i read somewhere in the book that stopping at impact could encourage quitting.
Cheers,
Danny
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02-01-2006, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
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Should there be any wrist break in a waggle? From what YodasLuke says wouldn't swingers starting from a standard address have to then break their wrists to rehearse their flying wedges in their waggle?
Is it ok to stop the waggle before the ball? I ask this because i read somewhere in the book that stopping at impact could encourage quitting.
Cheers,
Danny
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Depends-  If you sweep to the top then yes, the right wrist would fold in the waggle- as would the right elbow. I Hitter's wrist action wouldn't.
Address waggle is over the top of the ball and through it. Yes, to prevent the "computer" from excepting quitting.
Check 3-F-5 Homer talks about ALL the waggles.
My favorite line in 3-F-5 (The Address Routine):
"By which time the Hands completely replace the Club per 5-0."
(my emphasizes on completely)
That's it! TGM boiled down to a single doctrine.
What a book- gets better as you do.
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02-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
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What a book- gets better as you do.
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