Incubate this!!!

[vj]

The shoulder only stroke and the arm only stroke. There is no other mechanical stroke which stands up to them. A left arm stroke could be classified, so also a wrist only stroke, as well as a blend of any of the above four. BLENDING is not MENDING so I would stay away from taking any of the two and combining them.

The arm only stroke uses a push or putt basic stroke and the right elbow acts as a piston WHILE the right forefinger traces a straight plane line. The shoulders can move because they are considered a part of the power package as well as the pivot, however it is best to keep them steady as possible. Here the right arm will continue to push, straighten, and trace all the way to BOTH ARMS ARE STRAIGHT. This would have the putter head traveling down/out/and/forward to the low point oppo0site the left shoulder.

The shoulder only stroke utilizes the turning of the shoulders on an incline plane. As with all strokes the hands educate the pivot so tracing a staight plane line, moving the putter head along a plane board (angle) or using a curved device (putting arc) will teach the shoulders to move on an incline plane. The right shoulder must move on plane to keep the putter head moving on plane during the shoulder only stroke.
The shoulder only stroke moves the Thorasic Spinal region, not the lumbar or cerebral. Therefore the low point of the shoulder only stroke would be opposite the Thorasic Region of the spine which is slightly further back than that of the left shoulder.

So low point for the shoulder only stroke and low point for the right arm stroke are different.

[hue]

So low point for the shoulder only stroke and low point for the right arm stroke are different.

vj: How does this relate to ball position ? Is the ball position the same for both stroke types?

[vj]

Hue,

I believe ball position MUST change. In my opinion ball position should be at or near low point, but never in front of low point. No hitting up on putts ladies and gentelman.

The shoulder stroker would have the ball middle, off the spine, the right arm stroker at the left shoulder or just behind it.

[rchang72]

Hue,

I believe ball position MUST change. In my opinion ball position should be at or near low point, but never in front of low point. No hitting up on putts ladies and gentelman.

The shoulder stroker would have the ball middle, off the spine, the right arm stroker at the left shoulder or just behind it.

Thanks vj. This year I started to go to the Right arm stroke. Works really well. I started playing the ball in the middle of my stance, but got too many chip-putts. Now I know why.

[krpainter]

I switched to a arm only stroke when I visited Ted and Yoda in February earlier this year. At first it felt strange setting up but I saw a difference right away in striking the ball more in the center of the putter (distinctive sound when the putter hits the ball square in the center). The ball was definitely rolling better.

Took a couple of months to get used to a open stance with allignments and reading putts, but now I am completely comfortable with it. I get a lot of comments about it (I was in a tournament and someone asked a friend of mine why I putt like that), but the results speak for themselves. I averaged 36 putts last year a round, and had several 3 putts a round. Now I average 31 putts and the 3 putts are pretty infrequent.

I am definitely a fan of the arm only stroke.

Keith

PS-I have played a lot of golf this summer and haven't seen anyone else use this procedure yet (don't play with any TGM'ers though).

[vj]

KRpainter,

You don't get a lot of arm only strokes out there yet. The reason is quite simple, we as golfers do what we see the best do. The majority of tour players use a shoulder only stroke. Therefore, we grow up utilizing this stroke.

The trouble comes when we mix. I would compare it to "switting" where there are components that are just not inter-changeable. I believe you will see more right arm strokes in the future.

[birdie_man]

Is Chris Dimarco a right-arm guy?

He uses the "Claw" or w/e....

Seems like he'd drive with his right hand...

BTW nice site VJ: http://www.troliogolf.com/index.html

Good stuff....I like this quote:

“Most amateurs, and professionals for that matter, would lower their putting average by not trying so hard to make the putt go in the hole but by focusing on hitting the putt solidly.”
-VJ Trolio

Can't believe I've never thought of that in my game...I think it will help me.

[6bmike]

After picking Ted's head on the putting green over in Canton. I made a major change in my putting stroke. I have always had a nice pendulum stroke and have always made a good share of putts but --not lately. Ted spoke of the right shoulder moving up and down and to imagine a pen or marker on that shoulder drawing a straight vertical line. I also added a right arm drive, a slight fold and push to go along with the new shoulder action. It is like throwing darts. Far more accurate then my old arms hang low pendulum stroke. I even have to re-educate my eyes in trusting what straight is.

[Vikram]

As I wrote earlier Mike, that right arm extension tracing the plane line is amazing. It feels like the arm is going down to the target itself. Try even on the very short puts 3 footers, you will hit the back of the hole every time if you use this extensior action. Its made a world of a difference for me atleast. The ball i find has given me the best response in my 35 years of playing. What a time to discover it. Though I have made m y share of putts, this feel is far superior to earlier. and as you would agree --ITS a feeeeeeeeeel thing...

Vikram

[vj]

Mr. Kelley wrote of his belief that hitting and swinging should not be mixed for fear of the switter. In the golf swing there are 10 non-interchangeble components (stroke basic, variation,hinge,pressure point combination,left wrist action, lag loading, trigger type, power package assembly,loading,and delivery.

I feel that using #1 (the right arm) will produce an angled hinge and this is arm only putting. I feel that using the shoulders (pivot power, #4) should not be mixed with the use of #1.

Use either, but Mr. Kelley, I feel, said don't use both.