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Old 10-14-2005, 09:28 AM
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But it prohibits the physics available for the most lag in a pure CF swing.

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/daly.htm
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MJ... do you think with guys like Daly, Mickelson, Don January... Bobby Jones, that centrifugal force, and maybe the "reverse rotation" causes the wrists to seek proper IMPACT conditions if unhindered?

Do you think perhaps a more PRECISION type of golf could be produced by using the FLV/BLV CONDITIONS?

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Old 10-14-2005, 11:04 AM
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MJ... do you think guys with guys like Daly, Mickelson, Don January... Bobby Jones, that centrifugal force, and maybe the "reverse rotation" causes the wrists to seek proper IMPACT conditions if unhindered?

Do you think perhaps a more PRECISION type of golf could be produced by using the FLV/BLV CONDITIONS?
Yes, CF, if allowed, takes care of the proper alignments through impact.

And, yes, more precision is possible, but at the expense of constraints on the PHYSICS for the most powerful pure Swing.

The OILY-WRISTED freeswingers you mentioned don't use a FROZEN level right wrist.
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Old 10-14-2005, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

And, yes, more precision is possible, but at the expense of constraints on the PHYSICS for the most powerful pure Swing.

The OILY-WRISTED freeswingers you mentioned don't use a FROZEN level right wrist.
Please tell me more!

In what way will the Non-Level Right Wrist help promote CF?

What do you think of the concept that the Right Wrist is Frozen in its Level condition but still "oily wristed". For example, if your right wrist was in a cast, it must maintain its alignment, but at the same time the wrist in the cast can remain very supple.

All things being equal, do you think a Cocked Right Wrist gets more distance?

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Old 10-14-2005, 04:15 PM
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Please tell me more!

In what way will the Non-Level Right Wrist help promote CF?

What do you think of the concept that the Right Wrist is Frozen in its Level condition but still "oily wristed". For example, if your right wrist was in a cast, it must maintain its alignment, but at the same time the wrist in the cast can remain very supple.

All things being equal, do you think a Cocked Right Wrist gets more distance?

Thanks.
A non-frozen right wrist will promote a free flowing pure swing with natural cocking of both wrists which will fully utilize CF. Crank it up, let the air out of the arms, and unwind hard.

Casts aside, are you seriously asking if the right wrist can be frozen AND oily/supple at the same time?

In John Daly's swing for example, the cocked right wrist provides more total wrist cock and greater clubhead travel distance, which translates to more total clubhead lag, which leads to greater distance.
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Old 10-14-2005, 06:14 PM
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Casts aside, are you seriously asking if the right wrist can be frozen AND oily/supple at the same time?
Yes -- Frozen as in Level and Bent Right Wrist.
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:49 PM
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The left wrist can be oily- the right bent to flatten dimples. It works- really.

btw: here are two links to pictures that show Daly with an UNCOCKED right wrist at the top. With that elbow (like Jack's) sticking out- he couldn't cock the right. In fact the elbow looks that way because the right hand is BENT LEVEL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/178500...01_daly152.jpg

http://www.golfpiste.fi/gallery/Ihmi...daly_pieni.jpg

with a cigarette in that one.
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:04 AM
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The left wrist can be oily- the right bent to flatten dimples. It works- really.

btw: here are two links to pictures that show Daly with an UNCOCKED right wrist at the top. With that elbow (like Jack's) sticking out- he couldn't cock the right. In fact the elbow looks that way because the right hand is BENT LEVEL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/178500...01_daly152.jpg

http://www.golfpiste.fi/gallery/Ihmi...daly_pieni.jpg

with a cigarette in that one.
You are seeing what you want to see! In both pics, the right wrist is obviously partially if not totally COCKED. Level means partially uncocked so that there is a straight line extending from the large thumb knuckle to along the top of the forearm. With the right arm in that position, were Daly's right wrist level, the club wouldn't even get to horizontal, but rather would point upward and out to the right.
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