Close Encounters Tape - A Lesson With Lynn

[Yoda]

A wonderful series Lynn - great stuff!

Hinge action with an open hand.

Hinge action with a fist.

A classic!

Thanks, EdZ. I know you've been busy, but we've missed you. C'mon back as soon as you can.

[MizunoJoe]

Go back to the video and you will find that the Flat Left Wrist is not the problem. In fact, the student exhibits a good intellectual and physical command of that alignment.

Instead, the problem is an exaggerated Axis Tilt during the Start Down and Downstroke. He achieves this over-tilting of his spine (back and away from the Ball) by dropping his Right Shoulder severely Under Plane. This misalignment, in turn, is achieved by allowing his Head to drop back and down -- he Sways and he Bobs. The result is obvious: He continually hits 'up' on the Ball -- Scooping -- all the while doing a yeoman's job of maintaining a Flat Left Wrist.

In fact, he apparently has absolutely no sense of the correct Three-Dimensional Impact Geometry (Down, Out and Forward), much less how to achieve it. Thus, the cure is not more work on the Flat Left Wrist, but on teaching him (1) how the Body Pivot works in the correct Start Down; (2) how his Head should be positioned at Address; and (3) how to maintain that Head Position from Address to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position).

In other words, this student has Pivot and Stationary Head problems (Zone #1), not a Flat Left Wrist problem (Zones #2 and #3), and they must be treated accordingly.

I didn't say his problem was lack of a flat left wrist on his tire and crate efforts - his problem is that he's jabbing at it with his right hand. This will cause flipping in the full swing. He has to learn to use the pivot ONLY to move the hands, and using the mid-iron with the grip against the forearm will encourage the feeling of moving his left side with the pivot without the need to add right hand effort. He needs to get his mind out of his hands and onto the pivot. Aiming point should not be mentioned, because he will thrust his right hand at it, as is proven in the video.

Also notice that in tape #3, Ben physically moves him through this "perverted tilt" which you mentioned, telling him to tilt until the left elbow is past the row of balls.

[MizunoJoe]

Joe,

Nobody on our end deleted it. Takes a lot to get Sheriff Bagger riled up and I usually send a PM if something needs to be addressed in a post. As long as things don't get personal, all is good.

I've said it before, we value your contributions and in some cases, it helps bring out the best in us.

"...we value your contributions and IN SOME CASES, it helps bring out the best in us." Maybe it's those OTHER CASES that get mysteriously deleted.

[Bagger Lance]

"...we value your contributions and IN SOME CASES, it helps bring out the best in us." Maybe it's those OTHER CASES that get mysteriously deleted.

PM Sent.

Bagger

P.S. I'm moving the Doyle discussion to the appropriate thread.

[wanole]

Yoda,

Ignore Joe's unappreciation and rudeness. After all this is YOUR site and you can do as you wish. The rest of us truely appreciate your and Baggers efforts.

I, as a low handicapper like to see changes being made from someone in my handicap range. Many of us suffer from the same problems. ie..getting stuck. Sitting there watching a hacker getting frustrated and not listening isn't as useful to me as this series was.

On to my question. What did you change in his setup? I see where it's been mentioned that changes in his setup cured other problems. What were they and what did you change?

Thanks.

[Yoda]

What did you change in his setup? I see where it's been mentioned that changes in his setup cured other problems. What were they and what did you change?

The major change in his Address Position was that we put his Right Forearm On Plane. When he arrived, it was pointing well inside the Plane Line. This change was not done in a vacuum. We also worked hard on the Right Forearm Flying Wedge Concept -- establishing it, maintaining it throughout the Stroke and Tracing with it. Also, using the Right Forearm (via the Bending Right Elbow) to take the Club away (as opposed to his ingrained Shoulder Turn Takeaway). This work is ongoing.

[rchang72]

Yoda, in the video, you talk about directing the lag pressure down with the #3 pressure point. This may be beating a dead horse, but how does the swinger do this with that the right hand only like you were demonstrating? Or should the swinger practice that with only their right hand?

[wanole]

Yoda,

Is that why you have him approach the shot with the right arm flying wedge? so it gets on plane at address?

thanks

[Yoda]

Yoda, in the video, you talk about directing the lag pressure down with the #3 pressure point. This may be beating a dead horse, but how does the swinger do this with that the right hand only like you were demonstrating? Or should the swinger practice that with only their right hand?

Normally, the Pivot Loads the Swinger's Lag Pressure on the Rotated #3 Lag Pressure Point -- the first knuckle of the Right Hand. Centrifugal Force then supplies the Thrust of the Stroke, the Direct Drive of the #2 Accumulator (the Left Wristcock) through the #2 Pressure Point (the last three fingers of the Left Hand). However, that Centrifugal Thrust is sensed as Clubhead Lag Pressure and aimed by the #3 Pressure Point -- via its straight line thrust -- down the Delivery Path and toward the Plane Line.

I absolutely endorse practicing that move with the Right Arm only, first without a Club and then with one. At the Top, mentally draw a straight line from the #3 Pressure Point to the inside-aft quadrant of the Ball. Then, as your Downstroke Pivot Loads the Lag in Start Down, feel as though your Right Hand remains at the Top of the Stroke. Finally, with your Right Hip Cleared and the Lag Loaded, direct your Thrust directly down that Line and through your Aiming Point (usually the Ball). Once you've got the move down pat, practice with both Hands.

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

Yes Yoda, I remember this well. You and Luke performed this movement together with your right arm. It is right up there with the "Hitters" handshake............

Normally, the Pivot Loads the Swinger's Lag Pressure on the Rotated #3 Lag Pressure Point -- the first knuckle of the Right Hand. Centrifugal Force then supplies the Thrust of the Stroke, the Direct Drive of the #2 Accumulator (the Left Wristcock) through the #2 Pressure Point (the last three fingers of the Left Hand). However, that Centrifugal Thrust is sensed as Clubhead Lag Pressure and aimed by the #3 Pressure Point -- via its straight line thrust -- down the Delivery Path and toward the Plane Line.

I absolutely endorse practicing that move with the Right Arm only, first without a Club and then with one. At the Top, mentally draw a straight line from the #3 Pressure Point to the inside-aft quadrant of the Ball. Then, as your Downstroke Pivot Loads the Lag in Start Down, feel as though your Right Hand remains at the Top of the Stroke. Finally, with your Right Hip Cleared and the Lag Loaded, direct your Thrust directly down that Line and through your Aiming Point (usually the Ball). Once you've got the move down pat, practice with both Hands.