Average Joe
Mind over Muscle – The Mental Approach
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12-21-2005, 10:23 PM
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Average Joe
How good can Average Joe be? Let's assume enough physical talent to play a high school sport. Decent eye hand coordination . . .
We Drinkers of the Koolaid are armed with the absolute BEST information in golf - G.O.L.F. What can we do with this information?
The average handicap is stagnant at best. Let's say that the LBG/TGM Revolution's momentum continues to swell. How good can Joe Average be let us assume 2 hours of practice time, 1 18 hole round, and 1 9 hole escape per week.
Hogan said that the "average" golfer should be a 70's shooter. What do we say?
Can we develop a "scoring" template?
Any ideas?
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12-21-2005, 10:45 PM
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Joe Duffer's Potential
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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How good can Average Joe be? Let's assume enough physical talent to play a high school sport. Decent eye hand coordination . . .
Hogan said that the "average" golfer should be a 70's shooter. What do we say?
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I don't know what the rest of we will say.
But I do know what Homer Kelley said.
And he said:
"If you can keep your Left Wrist Flat through Impact, you will break 80 tomorrow."
In fact, that is exactly what he did in 1941. After only five months of golf, he shot a 77 on a championship course. His book -- The Golfing Machine® -- was born because he could not explain how he did it. Nor could he find anyone else who could. And because he didn't know, he immediately reverted to his old, high-handicap form. The "sweeping" Feel he had that day soon became a distant memory.
Sixteen years later, he discovered the Flat Left Wrist. Only then did he remember what the pro had told him:
"Semi-lock your left wrist through impact."
That is what Homer had done those many years before.
And a 77 is what he got.
Flat Left Wrist, anyone?
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12-22-2005, 12:02 AM
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The Master Essential
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Flat Left Wrist, anyone?
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Boy do I agree.
Assuming you are lined up to your target and you know your distances.
What is the scoring value of hitting the fairway?
What is the scoring value of hitting greens?
What is the scoring value of chipping, pitching and bunker play within Birdie radius of the pin?
What is the scoring value of an on-line putt?
My opinion, that flat left wrist is the Master Essential!
How difficult is it on every shot?
Witness the need for corrective Golf Instruction and training aids worldwide.
The Momentus, Tic Tac Wrist, Impact Bag, Medicus, Swingsetter, etc. All of them can be measured as effective or ineffective by their ability to correct a bent left wrist.
Put another way, it is difficult to keep a flat left wrist off plane and/or without lag pressure.
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12-22-2005, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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That flat left wrist is the Master Essential!
How difficult is it on every shot?
Witness the need for corrective Golf Instruction and training aids worldwide.
The Momentus, Tic Tac Wrist, Impact Bag, Medicus, Swingsetter, etc. All of them can be measured as effective or ineffective by their ability to correct a bent left wrist.
Bagger
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Why is it then all of these instructors and training aids rarely even mention the Flat Left Wrist?
"Makes you wanna go, hmmmmm...."
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12-22-2005, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Trig
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Why is it then all of these instructors and training aids rarely even mention the Flat Left Wrist?
"Makes you wanna go, hmmmmm...."
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Guess I should have mentioned, Golf Instruction can be measured as effective or ineffective by the same.
Thanks bud. We need to get out and play sometime! Like...let's set it up!
I know you are waiting on me... 
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12-22-2005, 12:33 AM
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Bagger MIA
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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I know you are waiting on me...
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I'm sorry....who ARE you? 
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12-22-2005, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Impossible, actually.
This is great, Bagger. Really great. Thanks!
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Is it because the Left Wrist can only become Flat and remain Flat because of the Right Wrist Bend? It doesn't Flatten on its own.
Little Independence in the Flying Wedges, I guess.
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12-22-2005, 02:55 AM
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Makin' It Happen
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Hogan said that the "average" golfer should be a 70's shooter. What do we say?
Can we develop a "scoring" template?
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Good idea, Colonel,
What would you like to see in the TGM template for Game improvement?
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12-22-2005, 03:17 PM
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How good can Joe Average get and how much time will it take?
From 25,000 hours on the tee:
Getting to make a better swing and look like a golfer - 15min. to 2hours
Breaking 100 regularly (if you never have) - less than one year
Break 90 regularly (starting from 100+) - less than 3 years
Break 80 regularly (starting from 100+) - less than 5 years
Assuming an average condition man 35-55, five lessons a year, one bucket a week in season, 20+ rounds per season.
And a good FITTED set of clubs.
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12-22-2005, 08:48 PM
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what about...
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Originally Posted by brianmanzella
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How good can Joe Average get and how much time will it take?
From 25,000 hours on the tee:
Getting to make a better swing and look like a golfer - 15min. to 2hours
Breaking 100 regularly (if you never have) - less than one year
Break 90 regularly (starting from 100+) - less than 3 years
Break 80 regularly (starting from 100+) - less than 5 years
Assuming an average condition man 35-55, five lessons a year, one bucket a week in season, 20+ rounds per season.
And a good FIITED set of clubs.
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Brian,
How about a 5 handicap trying to get to scratch? 
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