Augusta Controversy

[Daryl]

Who exactly is the "they" you are referring to? Martians perhaps? Is there some wonderfully new technology that can make your wishes come true? I don’t know of any. And what do you mean 260 yards for Tiger..... What the hell do you think Jack is talking about anyway??? Jack wants a ball that the average player can still hit 250 yards, but that even the biggest hitters can't hit past 260. Variable core material compression. If you hit the ball hard enough, then the inner core spreads like mashed potatoes. The ball can't go farther than the outer cores can rebound. I can't explain it in technical terms, but thats what I heard and read and that is what Jack wants.

[birdie_man]

260 yards for Tiger is what you said in your post.....is that what Jack said???

Are you sure?

If true then I don't agree with that...(if true).

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BY "THEY" I mean THEY who set up the golf courses.

Obviously! (duh! duh! )

[BlackjackNY]

There is no way Jack and Arnie make those comments without the express consent of Augusta National. They are paving the way for a "Masters" ball.

[ram418]

We know Jack is in favor of it. But "ruined the course" is not something Hootie would approve of.

[Trig]

Everyone tees it up from the same spot and plays the same coures so who cares about any of this? All golfers have the same equipment and balls. It's all relative. The best guy wins today and the the best guy won 30 years ago. Create a "Masters ball" and the best guy will win again.

If they want to favor long hitters, keep the rough low. If they want to favor accuracy let it grow! Rough is a great neutralizer.

The course has been wet pretty much every year since the lastest major changes were made. Wait until they get some windy/dry conditions.

[nevermind]

Everyone tees it up from the same spot and plays the same coures so who cares about any of this? All golfers have the same equipment and balls. It's all relative. The best guy wins today and the the best guy won 30 years ago. Create a "Masters ball" and the best guy will win again.

Damn straight. Too many people forget or ignore the fact that the shorter guys are also using the new technology. Too often I hear arguments without any statistical evidence. Anyone have some figures on just how much more dominant the long pro's of today are than the bombers of yesteryear

Create a "masters ball" and no way can it be a level playing field

[Homerson]

One approach is to look at the grooves on the clubs.
It penalizes inaccuracy off the tee even more, and makes it much harder to hit those wedges close to those tucked pins.

Seems as though ANGC is playing atypically tough this week.

[jFrank]

My view on Augusta is simple and based on my golf experience.
I play with a long hitter regularly.He swings 2 clubs less on every shot.We have played over 300 rounds together in the last 10 years and I win 60% of them.Why and how?I don't care what he has in his hand first of all .After the tee shot he has to make the next shot because I'm tight from 140yds in.I hit my 7 iron as high and as long as he hits his 9 iron.(It's only numbers on a club!)
If I really want to mess him up I take our next game(we alternate) to a short,tight course(6200)where his power game is restricted.
Now,if you can see where I'm going with this,good,because the only way to bring the rest of the field back into the game is to keep the course short.The power hitters cannot run away with it because everyone on tour has as good a short game.Personally,I'd set up the course for the likes of Jeff Sluman and let everyone else sweat their club selection.After all, if they all make it in two,the odds favour no one.

[tongzilla]

My view on Augusta is simple and based on my golf experience.
I play with a long hitter regularly.He swings 2 clubs less on every shot.We have played over 300 rounds together in the last 10 years and I win 60% of them.Why and how?I don't care what he has in his hand first of all .After the tee shot he has to make the next shot because I'm tight from 140yds in.I hit my 7 iron as high and as long as he hits his 9 iron.(It's only numbers on a club!)
If I really want to mess him up I take our next game(we alternate) to a short,tight course(6200)where his power game is restricted.
Now,if you can see where I'm going with this,good,because the only way to bring the rest of the field back into the game is to keep the course short.The power hitters cannot run away with it because everyone on tour has as good a short game.Personally,I'd set up the course for the likes of Jeff Sluman and let everyone else sweat their club selection.After all, if they all make it in two,the odds favour no one.

I aggree...the funny thing is
Isn't that the very reason they lengthened courses so a guy called Tiger wouldn't overdominated everyone on "short" courses?
They complain when it's too short. Complain when it's too long. Just face it. He's the best.

[Daryl]

JFrank

I like your thinking. I enjoy playing with guys that drive the ball 300. I enjoy taking their money too. I make them bet closest to the pin. That shuts them up.

I always thought that by lengthening the course and growing the rough that the course settup people were reducing Tigers advantage. The other day, I was watching the Golf Channel (oops) and someone said that by lengthening the course and growing the rough, they gave him an advantage. Which is it? I believe that on any given day Tiger can win on any Golf Course under any conditions. It's purely up to him.

The problem is Television. I would love to see a shorter course so that two or more (the more the better) players are in a play-off. The player with the best control of his game, nerves and swing will win. Very exciting. However this could take much more time than Television Broadcasting Companies allow. It' also nerve-racking on the viewers too.

I wonder if this holds up to # of playoffs per season from 1925 til today.