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Old 02-16-2005, 02:38 AM
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Hi Yoda,
In your driving the golfball video,you STRESS making sure your right forearm is on plane before you will even begin your swing. Would you please go into some detail on this. How can I tell it's on plane...Does it change for each club.....type of shot ...etc ...?????
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:24 AM
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:09 PM
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Thanks Thom,
I may get my head bit off,but isn't this similar to what Moe Norman did with the shaft going up the right forearm..or am I missing it ?
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Thanks Thom,
I may get my head bit off,but isn't this similar to what Moe Norman did with the shaft going up the right forearm..or am I missing it ?
Yes it is.
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Re: plane of right forearm
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Hi Yoda,
In your driving the golfball video,you STRESS making sure your right forearm is on plane before you will even begin your swing. Would you please go into some detail on this. How can I tell it's on plane...Does it change for each club.....type of shot ...etc ...?????
I know the question is for Yoda but I will attempt to make an answer until he does....

Lets just start with what is a plane of motion. A flat inclined plane (like a pitched roof- glossary) means that this is what the clubshaft travels on. The clubface may open or close but the clubshaft always rests upon it. You may notice that no matter what the incline the base line or plane line remains constant (1-L).

For the right forearm to be on plane and to enable a zero shift stroke the right forearm must be a virtual extension of the club (in the cup of the right hand with no wrist cock...eg moe norman) and since the address starts with the right wrist in a vertical condition means that the right forearm also rests on that plane.

So what is the inclined plane... im glad you asked .... in the ideal application it is the turned shoulder plane but it can be rotated but in other words it is where your right shoulder is going to turn to.... draw a line from the ball to the place where your right shoulder turns to at the end or top of the backstroke.....

So basically to give a direct answer and sum up - right forearm an virtual extension of the club from side view by the right wrist being in a level condition with no wrist cock and the clubshaft being in the cup of the right hand. The right forearm will then automatically point at the baseline. Then you also point the forearm to the point that your shoulder is going to turn to..... and evola an onplane forearm....
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Re: plane of right forearm
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Originally Posted by dale
Hi Yoda,
In your driving the golfball video,you STRESS making sure your right forearm is on plane before you will even begin your swing. Would you please go into some detail on this. How can I tell it's on plane...Does it change for each club.....type of shot ...etc ...?????
I know the question is for Yoda but I will attempt to make an answer until he does....

Lets just start with what is a plane of motion. A flat inclined plane (like a pitched roof- glossary) means that this is what the clubshaft travels on. The clubface may open or close but the clubshaft always rests upon it. You may notice that no matter what the incline the base line or plane line remains constant (1-L).

For the right forearm to be on plane and to enable a zero shift stroke the right forearm must be a virtual extension of the club (in the cup of the right hand with no wrist cock...eg moe norman) and since the address starts with the right wrist in a vertical condition means that the right forearm also rests on that plane.

So what is the inclined plane... im glad you asked .... in the ideal application it is the turned shoulder plane but it can be rotated but in other words it is where your right shoulder is going to turn to.... draw a line from the ball to the place where your right shoulder turns to at the end or top of the backstroke.....

So basically to give a direct answer and sum up - right forearm an virtual extension of the club from side view by the right wrist being in a level condition with no wrist cock and the clubshaft being in the cup of the right hand. The right forearm will then automatically point at the baseline. Then you also point the forearm to the point that your shoulder is going to turn to..... and evola an onplane forearm....

If you do a right forearm pickup properly, then can't you start with the right arm not on plane because it gets on plane at waist high on the backswing? It's very awkward and the club seems to stand on toe with the right arm on the shaft plane at address. If your elbow is on the plane then you should be ok as long as you don't cock the right wrist. right?
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Re: plane of right forearm
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If you do a right forearm pickup properly, then can't you start with the right arm not on plane because it gets on plane at waist high on the backswing? It's very awkward and the club seems to stand on toe with the right arm on the shaft plane at address. If your elbow is on the plane then you should be ok as long as you don't cock the right wrist. right?


I'm demonstrating a zero shift here and an onplane right forearm at address......
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Re: plane of right forearm
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If you do a right forearm pickup properly, then can't you start with the right arm not on plane because it gets on plane at waist high on the backswing? It's very awkward and the club seems to stand on toe with the right arm on the shaft plane at address. If your elbow is on the plane then you should be ok as long as you don't cock the right wrist. right?


I'm demonstrating a zero shift here and an onplane right forearm at address......
Nice pic Mathew! Are you a Hitter or Swinger?
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Re: plane of right forearm
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Originally Posted by wanole
If you do a right forearm pickup properly, then can't you start with the right arm not on plane because it gets on plane at waist high on the backswing? It's very awkward and the club seems to stand on toe with the right arm on the shaft plane at address. If your elbow is on the plane then you should be ok as long as you don't cock the right wrist. right?


I'm demonstrating a zero shift here and an onplane right forearm at address......
Wonderful pic Mathew, thanks.


Notice the plane of the hands - the plane that PP#1 travels.

Draw a line from the hands at the top, back down to the hands at address, to the ground.

THAT is what being 'on plane' is about.

The so called 'plane shifts' are only due to what appears to be 'the' things to follow.

Follow your hands. Feel your hands. Feel the pressure points in your hands.

Force must be on plane, it must not 'change' planes, or you give up efficient motion. Force is transmitted through the hands, where the hands meet - PP#1 stays on ITS plane, which is very nearly parallel to the right elbow plane
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Re: plane of right forearm
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Originally Posted by dale
Hi Yoda,
In your driving the golfball video,you STRESS making sure your right forearm is on plane before you will even begin your swing. Would you please go into some detail on this. How can I tell it's on plane...Does it change for each club.....type of shot ...etc ...?????
I know the question is for Yoda but I will attempt to make an answer until he does....

Lets just start with what is a plane of motion. A flat inclined plane (like a pitched roof- glossary) means that this is what the clubshaft travels on. The clubface may open or close but the clubshaft always rests upon it. You may notice that no matter what the incline the base line or plane line remains constant (1-L).

For the right forearm to be on plane and to enable a zero shift stroke the right forearm must be a virtual extension of the club (in the cup of the right hand with no wrist cock...eg moe norman) and since the address starts with the right wrist in a vertical condition means that the right forearm also rests on that plane.

So what is the inclined plane... im glad you asked .... in the ideal application it is the turned shoulder plane but it can be rotated but in other words it is where your right shoulder is going to turn to.... draw a line from the ball to the place where your right shoulder turns to at the end or top of the backstroke.....

So basically to give a direct answer and sum up - right forearm an virtual extension of the club from side view by the right wrist being in a level condition with no wrist cock and the clubshaft being in the cup of the right hand. The right forearm will then automatically point at the baseline. Then you also point the forearm to the point that your shoulder is going to turn to..... and evola an onplane forearm....
Great, clear, concise description for us Basic crowd. The photo is the icing.
Well done. =D>

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