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Old 04-22-2006, 09:17 PM
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Their are numerous problems I have with this putting set up. First, Yoda or a potential student will require back surgery at some point. Secondly, it appears that yoga has loaded up his weight on his left side, which seems like it would be very inconsistent (pressure putts). I'm not intending to write off the style, but a more traditional set up will stand the test of time.
What about Jack's set up? Problems there?
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Old 04-23-2006, 07:34 AM
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of course, I have very similar problems with Jack's, but keep in mind that Jack is a needle in the haystack. I never said the style couldn't or wouldn't work. I merely stated that it would be difficult to teach to the masses.
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I am very fortunate to get to spend a good deal of time with David Toms who he is not to shabby with the flat stick. "weight centered, eyes over the ball and target line, path like a closing door."
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:22 AM
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Yoda has priority #1 a flat left wrist through impact. Then using one accumulator for the motion.

What does the conventional stance put priority on? Eyes over ball?

When the ball is near the middle of the stance, the left wrist starts bent. Then it must stay the same degree of bent through the stroke.
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Yoda's stroke is fine....there's more than one way to do it too you know.
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:21 AM
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Last night I was listening to a phone conversation between a Youthful Yoda and Homer Kelly. Yoda questioned Homer at length about putting, and Homer insisted that there was no reason to change set up or swing when putting. This follows Bobby Jones and Bobby Locke, who each said the same thing. And who were possibly the two greatest putters who ever lived. Locke set up to putt exactly the same way he set up to hit a full shot, which was with an extremely, yea, a legendary closed stance.

Watch the end of Ben Doyle's Video (now available on DVD!) where he putts with extreme open and closed stances. Yoda knows.
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Old 04-25-2006, 11:35 AM
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Homer Kelley's Putting Stroke
Originally Posted by redan

Last night I was listening to a phone conversation between a Youthful Yoda and Homer Kelly. Yoda questioned Homer at length about putting, and Homer insisted that there was no reason to change set up or swing when putting. Yoda knows.
Homer Kelley Putted with an extended Left Arm and a Flat Left Wrist (Impact Fix Address Position). He saw "no reason to return to the Adjusted Address Position" (Bent Left Wrist).

He then located the Ball in his Stance so as to achieve an 'Above Center' Impact and thus a 'true Roll' (Overspin) immediately upon separation. [Note: This is NOT 'hitting up' on the Ball!] That location will be precisely at Low Point with a Reverse Loft Putter and just behind Low Point for a No-Loft or Loft Putter. How much behind Low Point? Far enough back to insure a Negative Loft ('Overspin') Impact -- and therefore not Zero Loft (No Spin or Skid) or Loft (Backspin or Lift) -- but not so far as to cause the Ball to be driven into the ground.

As usual, Homer emphasized that this was his procedure and that you may choose a different one. In which case, no matter how you choose to Impact the Ball -- Roll, Skid or Lift -- the really important thing is to do it the same way every time. Otherwise, your distance control will suffer...

And you along with it!
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