The Finish Swivel

[annikan skywalker]

Lynn truly outstanding work...yes Hinge action and Finish swivel very different indeed...

However very important points to consider...

#1) Finish Swivel is parallel to the Selected Plane Angle...I see so many over swivel to the finish ...both off plane with the Hands and the sweetspot and shaft planes....Reulting in the dreaded "Count Dracula" Finish...

#2) Many argue here that the left wrist must still be "Flat" but I beg to differ using the Grip Type variation as the ever present "Trump Card"

#3) Although I respect my elders in TGM..just like there is Perverted Pitch Elbow, Perverted Axis Tilt...I am now proclaiming that there can be a Perverted Finish Swivel...I don't really care how many years someone has taught something it can be misrepresented...For Example the Flying Wedges?


Lesson I've learned the most in life and G.O.L.F.:...Don't be perverted!!!....Bucket?


I thought your demonstration of Finish Swivel was more accurate and concise at Pine Needles than what has been demonstrated after your Canton experience with the Grand Pooh Bah.

But point is well made and very well demonstrated...


Don't execute Impact as a Swivel...

But in reality there is a Hinge Action between Release Swivel and Finish Swivel for the Swinger...



Annikan

[Mathew]

That was cool

[Daryl]

Yoda,

Thank you for spending so much time on this at the "Old Waverly" seminar. The finish swivel concept became clear with the help of three learning experiences.

The time line was:

First. V.J.’s computer illustrating low point and the #3 pressure point that Must continue on-plane after impact. Impact is further down plane than I thought.

Second. Ted using the Hula Hoop and a rod to demonstrate low point, divot depth, ball position and the #3 pressure point that must continue on-plane after impact. Impact is further down plane than I thought.

Third. Yoda, taking my hands, shoulders and arms, moving them through the motion over and over until I could see and feel how far down-out-and-forward-on-plane the hinging motion travels (rhythm) before the finish swivel. Impact is further down plane than I thought.

This is "The Golfing Machine". Hinging and the finish swivel and EXTENSOR action. I never could or would have learned this on my own and it’s the difference between hackers and golfers.

[Yoda]

...I am now proclaiming that there can be a Perverted Finish Swivel...I don't really care how many years someone has taught something it can be misrepresented...

I thought your demonstration of Finish Swivel was more accurate and concise at Pine Needles than what has been demonstrated after your Canton experience with the Grand Pooh Bah.

For the record, George Preisinger, then Head Professional at the Marietta Country Club in Marietta, Georgia -- not Ben Doyle at Canton -- taught me Swivel Action in 1963. I was 17 years old. Unfortunately, it was not until I got on the phone with Homer Kelley in 1980 that I learned to differentiate Swivel Action (after the Follow-Through) from Hinge Action (during Impact). I was 34 years old.

In between I hit some 800,000 practice balls. And that's a conservative number. There were many good shots, but my understanding was incomplete and it showed. What a waste.

And now, 25 years and probably another 800,000 practice balls later, I think I know the difference between the two. I have described that difference clearly in countless posts -- including those most recent above -- and now have illustrated it in both still sequence and video.

The only difference between the Hinge Action and Finish Swivel you see in this video -- both, by the way, executed with a Strong Single Action Grip (Wristcock Only, no Wrist Bend) -- and the ones I photographed and sent to Homer Kelley in 1982 and later still those demonstrated in the first 'night-time' videos (late 2004) now on this site -- is the camera angle. And, at least according to my own understanding...

Both are correct.

[metallion]

Unfortunately, it was not until I got on the phone with Homer Kelley in 1980 that I learned to differentiate Swivel Action (after the Follow-Through) from Hinge Action (during Impact).

I am interested on your opinions on the following perception:

Many amateurs have the idea that the trick is to swivel during impact. Impact becomes a blur of uncocking, rolling and swiveling.

In order to hit it further the selected option is to swivel more during impact. Since an over-swiveling during impact will effectively hood the face (de-loft and close) this may result in occasional longer shots (strong draws or pull-hooks). Even though the shots are likely to go all over the place it will become hard to convince the golfer that he should not (effectively) de-loft as much in order to hit it farther.

So how can it be that a (perceived) de-lofting will actually produce longer shots?

Tentative answer: Premature (over-)swiveling during impact will indirectly:
- Make the right shoulder rise
- Destroy the shoulder plane
- Cause round-housing
- Terminate the rotation and cause the hips to slide forward instead of rotating to face the target
- Unbending the right wrist

All-in-all: The faulty swivel action will distort the swing and eliminate many of the factors that enable the golfer to add more power to his swing.

At least in my case it did.

[mb6606]

Based on the video the uncocking, hinge and swivel must be precise. It becomes clear why the stationary head is necessary.
Sway slightly and the uncocking is to early or to far behind the ball.