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Old 04-27-2006, 08:06 AM
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When is a Method a Method? GM#149
Originally Posted by DelawareGolf
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If that's the case, the right arm swinger per 7-19 is a true swinger!

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The Right Arm Swinger is a 'True' Right Arm Swinger if he allows Centrifugal Force alone to align the Clubface for Impact. Otherwise, he is a 'Manipulated Hands' Right Arm Swinger. Due the Ball Location difficulties experienced by True Swingers as explained in prior posts, I would think that most Right Arm Swingers would choose to 'Manipulate.'
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When is a Method a Method? GM#150
Originally Posted by DelawareGolf
DG is done...

Last post for me too....I'm wasting my time.

Sorry for shedding some light...

DG,

So what's wrong with being a Manipulated Hands Right Arm Swinger? You've got all the power of the True Right Arm Swinger with the additional ability to control the Ball Location and the Clubface.

Besides, I never said you couldn't be a True Right Arm Swinger (if you wanted to be one). I just said you had an option.

There may be reasons to 'check out,' DG, but this ain't one of'em! C'mon back!
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When is a Method a Method? GM#151
Originally Posted by DelawareGolf
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I guess Tom Tomasello must have been seen as a black sheep of the TGM teaching community by starting the downswing with the right forearm and using right forearm acceleration with a swinging procedure? What did the TGM community think after Tom's 1991 GI interview?

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Can't speak for the 1991 TGM Community. I was doing my sabbatical in a galaxy far away.
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When is a Method a Method? GM#155
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The True Swinger allows Centrifugal Force to align for Impact all three Functions of the Club, i.e., the Clubhead, the Clubshaft and the Clubface.

The Manipulated Swinger allows Centrifugal Force to align the Clubhead and the Clubshaft. Using Grip Rotation (7-2) and optionally, a Hinge Action (10-10-C or 10-10-E) other than Dual Horizontal, he himself aligns the Clubface.

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Dave,
I think the man with funny ears had an excellent answer (as usual) to your question. Just for clarification- the manipulative swinger has all of the hinging options available- including horizontal hinging- I am guessing that Yoda will agree with me on that - just thought it was left a little open in his post.

Mike O.

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Yes, I agree. My post should be interpreted as follows:

"Dual Horizontal Hinge Action is mandatory for True Swingers and normal for Manipulated Swingers. However, Manipulated Swingers have the option of using Angled and Dual Vertical Hinge Actions as well, providing they make the necessary adjustments (Clubface Alignment and Rhythm)."


The above explanation assumes the use of the Inclined Plane. However, while I'm clarifying, I suppose I should address the two remaining Hinge Action Variations; namely, Horizontal (Only) Hinge Action (10-10-A) and Vertical (Only) Hinge Action (10-10-B). These Variations operate in a Vertical Plane, not on an Inclined Plane. Horizontal (Only) is available to both True and Manipulated Swingers. Vertical (Only) is available to only Manipulated Swingers. And what about Angled (Only) Hinge Action? In the absence of an Inclined Plane, i.e, the use of a Vertical or a Horizontal Plane, it does not exist (by definition).

From a theoretical standpoint, these two Variations serve as the basis for their 'Dual Action' counterparts (10-10-D/E). From a practical standpoint, they satisfy the need of the player who ignores the Inclined Plane, typically for short Shots such as Putting and Chipping. In such Strokes, his Clubhead 'Covers' the Straight Plane Line instead of Tracing it. In other words, the player causes the Clubhead to move in a Vertical Plane -- Up and Back (no 'In') and Down and Forward (no 'Out') -- and not on an Inclined Plane. As he does so, he executes (with his Flat Left Wrist) either the Horizontal or Vertical Hinge Motion of the Clubface.

Well, I'm sure the above first paragraph lifted any remaining Fog from my prior post. Unfortunately, I'm equally sure that the next two lowered more of their own. Not to worry: That's part of The Journey we call The Golfing Machine. Take what you can for now, and throw the rest in your Incubator. Turn it over now and then, and over time, you'll be surprised at what pecks its way out of the shell.

Meanwhile, lay off my ears!
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When using the Right Shoulder to launch the Driving Right Arm, Palmer, Stadler and Trevino are Four-Barrel Hitters, not Four-Barrel Swingers.
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It seems to me that Stadler is more of a hitting-swinger, who pushes then snaps release.

The Snap Releases -- both Non-automatic and Automatic -- are available for both Hitters and Swingers.
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