Although I 'study' TGM, I never would have thought with the continuous motion of a small chip shot, you would want the left wrist to turn that quickly in start up. As miniature swings, I would assume this would be the same movement in one's Total Motion?
If Yes, then I am a bit confused!! I know that I had heard somwhere before, could have been Chuck but not sure, that if one is swinging (like myself) that the left hand turn would not start until the club is approximately parallel to the ground so as to avoid taking the club back on a flatter plane (or inside the plane) that one desired.
Thanks for any Fog lifting!
FL-John
Left Wrist Action (7-18 ) is independent of Plane Angle (7-6). For Swingers using Standard Left Wrist Action, the Start Up Swivel places the Left Palm On Plane almost immediately.
That said, I did not necessarily advocate Standard Wrist Action. I simply said 'Turn and Roll.' Even with Single Wrist Action, there is a degree of Turn and Roll. Only with Zero Wrist Action would there be none.
Remember, too, the problem I'm trying to solve here: Failure to allow the Clubface to properly close through Impact. This is Steering (3-F-7-A), the Game's #1 Snare. And if the Left Wrist (Clubface) doesn't Turn going back, it won't Roll going through.
That is great stuff Yoda. I am suffering from that exact shot at the moment where the ball starts straight and then goes right or starts right and goes further right.
I have to go and work a lot on what you just said.
Thanks,
Alex
That is great stuff Yoda. I am suffering from that exact shot at the moment where the ball starts straight and then goes right or starts right and goes further right.
I have to go and work a lot on what you just said.
Thanks,
Alex
Remember...
Left Hand: Clubface.
Right Hand: Clubhead.
Also, for all Hitters and 'Manipulated Hands' Swingers (which is almost everybody else), a Ball Positioned forward of the Straightaway Position tends to produce Fades and Slices. That fact, combined with the lack of proper Left Hand Roll during Release and Impact, causes an Off-Center Impact -- the Clubface contacts the Inside-Aft Quadrant (2-B) of the Ball instead of directly in the Back, i.e., through its Centerline. Similarly, a 'back of Straightaway' Ball position tends to produce Draws and Hooks.
So, if you're fighting a Fade or Slice, make sure the Ball is Back in your Stance rather than Forward. And, keeping your Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical (4-A/B/C-1) in Fix, align the Clubface more Closed (which will tend to make it contact the Center or Outside-Aft Quadrant of the Ball). Properly executed, this will produce Clubface Alignment-Clubhead Path divergence and the Draw you are looking for.
Have always struggled trying to hit draws from where I believed a swinger should have the ball (more forward from my understanding), but was always more comfortable hitting draws with the ball back in the stance.
Uninterrupted, Centrifugal Force will align the Clubface for Horizontal Hinging through Impact. This means that the Clubface will be Square to the Target Line at only one point in its orbit through the Impact Interval. Before this point, the Clubface will be Open, and after this point it will be Closed. Thus, for the 'True' Swinger, positioning the Ball forward brings a Closed Clubface into Impact and produces Draws and Hooks. Similarly, positioning the Ball back in the Stance brings an Open Clubface into Impact and produces Fades and Slices.
Hence, for the 'True' Swinger -- one who does nothing to override this action via intentional (or unintentional) Hand Manipulation -- the Ball must be precisely positioned for Straightaway Flight. This position varies with the design of each Club and can only be determined by experiment. Fortunately, the Clubs are manufactured to position themselves well for this Straightaway Flight, e.g., a Three-Iron positions itself further forward in the Stance than a Pitching Wedge. However, once the Ball Position has been determined for the Club in Hand, the 'Pure' Swinger must not interfere. Centrifugal Force has 100 percent responsibility for aligning the Clubface for Impact. And that means that if the Ball has been put too far back, a Slice must result, and if too far forward, a Hook.
Hitters and 'Manipulated Hands' Swingers, on the other hand, are not bound by the problem of 'One Straightaway Position.' Again, remember that we are not talking about one Ball Location for all Clubs, e.g., 'inside the Left Heel.' Instead, we are talking about a Straightaway Position unique to each Club. Players using Hand Manipulation can choose to play the Ball from this Straightaway Position, or they can position it further backward or forward. In other words, by Aiming Point (6-E-2) and Clubface Adjustment, they can hit the Ball Straight with any Club from any Location in their Stance.
The Aiming Point Adjustment can be determined only by experiment. The Clubface Adjustment is accomplished by positioning the Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical and turning the Club (more Open or Closed) in the Hand. This procedure -- 'Rotating the Grip' (7-2) -- aligns the Clubface appropriately to produce the intended Ball Response, i.e., a Straightaway or Curved Ball Flight.
So, Densikat, your difficulty in producing Draws from the Forward Ball Location was because you were not using the 'True' Swing technique. Instead, you were overriding the natural action of Centrifugal Force that brings a Closed Clubface into Impact with a Ball positioned forward of the Straightaway Point. Your success in producing Draws from the Back Ball Location is because you are correctly using Hand Manipulation to produce an Impact on the Outside-Aft Quadrant of the Ball.
One final thought:
It is extremely difficult for the 'True' Swinger to determine the necessary precise Ball Location for each unique Club and under all conditions and circumstances. Therefore, Homer Kelley felt strongly that 'Hand Manipulated' Swinging was by far the better alternative.
"Manipulated Hands' swinging...is that the same as non-automatic release?SO Homer still would have preferred multiple ball locations rather than a single ball location, even with 'hand manipulation' thrown in? If one uses one ball location, could one use the same aiming point and same swing by using 'hand manipulation'?
Thx
GolfCatty,
Here are your questions answered in the order asked:
1. 'Manipulated Hands' Swinging has nothing to do with the Releases. Instead, it is positioning the Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical at Impact Fix and aligning the Clubface -- by turning the Club in the Hand -- to produce the intended Ball Response. 'True' Swinging, on the other hand, is allowing Centrifugal Force only to align the Clubface for Impact.
2. Homer preferred using the Ball Location dictated by the Club instead of one Ball Location for all Clubs. He especially liked playing the "shorter Sticks," as he called them, further back. Why? "More Backspin. Better Bite." Also, there is "less chance of scuffing them."
3. Using one Ball Location for all Clubs mandates the use of the Aiming Point concept.
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