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Old 05-22-2006, 03:35 PM
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The left arm wedge is 'against' the plane, the left wrist cock is 'on' the plane.

Anatomically flat allows this. Visually flat does not, which is why it is technially an 'arched' position. Of course grip type comes into play.
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Old 05-22-2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
The left arm wedge is 'against' the plane, the left wrist cock is 'on' the plane.

Anatomically flat allows this. Visually flat does not, which is why it is technially an 'arched' position. Of course grip type comes into play.

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Old 05-22-2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
ED,

Something is wrong here.
see 10-13-D #2 for "the plane"
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
see 10-13-D #2 for "the plane"
I know what you're saying Ed. I see it too. The Clubshaft can lie flat on the inclined plane and keep its’ radial alignment hence, left arm flying wedge undisturbed.

However, and this is the, Big however. Although the Clubshaft can lie flat on the inclined plane, the left wrist must cock and bend to keep the Clubshaft On Plane while cocking AND still keep the radial alignment of the left arm flying wedge. Otherwise, if the left wrist remains flat during the cocking motion, the Clubshaft will leave the inclined plane while cocking on the Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge and not disturb its alignment.

In other words, the Left Wrist can Cock on the Inclined Plane or on the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge, but not both at the same time unless you have a Bent Left Wrist.

In his thread “Spheres…” Mathew said:

Originally Posted by Mathew
The strict left flying wedge on an ideal mechanics is a superior procedure - like homer said about the double wrist cock - it requires a reverse roll. There is a complete overlap of 2 and 3, however you are still swinging and the pivots acceleration is still spinning the flywheel.... its still swinging
Mathew says that letting the shaft leave the inclined plane to maintain a flat left wrist and radial alignment with the left arm flying wedge is a superior procedure.

I’m trying to confirm whether the above statement by Mathew is correct. I went out to the range yesterday and tried both procedures with 200 balls. I found the above statement true. I went to the range today and hit 100 balls. Again, I found the above statement true. I think it is a superior procedure. In fact I’ve never hit the ball better. Best sound I ever heard, best #4 pressure point I’ve ever had, and best feel of #2 & #3 release motions I’ve ever had. I guess Homer would say, “Have at it”.


That’s why I started this thread and asked the question: Which plane do you think HK was referring to in 7-3? The inclined plane or the left arm flying wedge plane? I’ve read it dozens of times and I agree that he was referring to the inclined plane.

Has anyone else tried this procedure?

So, Between, Lynn, Ted, the Edz drills and that statement from Mathew, my impact has never been better, though I’m still a little foggy. What a great place this web-site is…….
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Daryl,where does it say in the book the left arm flying wedge IS THE PLANE LINE?.Now you've got me confused!.I always took it that the HANDS AND THE CLUBHEAD DEFINE THE PLANE.Iknow it says in6-B-3-O-1"the entire left arm ,the clubshaft and the back of the left hand are always positioned against the same flat plane-[i]the plane of the left wristcock motion.IALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS NOT THE INCLINED PLANE THAT THE HANDS TRAVEL ON -BECAUSE OF THE SHOULDER ROTATION.
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:35 PM
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Daryl,where does it say in the book the left arm flying wedge IS THE PLANE LINE?.Now you've got me confused!.I always took it that the HANDS AND THE CLUBHEAD DEFINE THE PLANE.Iknow it says in6-B-3-O-1"the entire left arm ,the clubshaft and the back of the left hand are always positioned against the same flat plane-[i]the plane of the left wristcock motion.IALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS NOT THE INCLINED PLANE THAT THE HANDS TRAVEL ON -BECAUSE OF THE SHOULDER ROTATION.
I was confused, but not anymore. Sorry for making it confusing.

Question:

If the wrist cock motion keeps the clubshaft and left arm on the same flat plane, and, the left arm is not on the inclined plane, then how does the clubshaft stay on the inclined plane when cocking?

Answer: It doesn't.

PS. if I said that the Left Arm Flying Wedge was the Plane Line then it was a misprint.
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Originally Posted by Daryl
I was confused, but not anymore. Sorry for making it confusing.

Question:

If the wrist cock motion keeps the clubshaft and left arm on the same flat plane, and, the left arm is not on the inclined plane, then how does the clubshaft stay on the inclined plane when cocking?

Answer: It doesn't.

PS. if I said that the Left Arm Flying Wedge was the Plane Line then it was a misprint.
Daryl,the hands and clubface define the plane.The left entire left arm, clubshaft and the back of the left hand are always positioned against the same flat plane -NOT IMO "THE "PLANE ,but "their" own flat plane.Because of the space between the left shoulder and the centre of the pivot ,rotation moves the left shoulder off plane-but Homer never referred to the plane (well only briefly)in terms of the left shoulder.I think I understand what you are getting at -the hands and clubshaft cannot be on plane if the left arm flying wedge is not on plane.Hmmmmm-Ithink they can ......GO FOR IT MATE
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