Hank Haney - Tellin us "The Plane Truth....NOT"

[lagster]

Who did Mr. Haney learn from... was it not Jim Hardy? I've heard him speak at a couple of P.G.A. Teaching seminars. His idea of plane had something to do with congruent lines. He said he did not understand the big deal about lag. He thought the guys that had a lot of lag(probably Accumulator Lag) were usually short hitters.

Now... I've seen a video of Evan Williams(Big Cat), and he has Accumulator Lag, Clubhead Lag... and probably Pivot Lag, and he destroys the ball!! I suppose there are some lagging short hitters, but there are LONG ONES TOO.

Mr. Haney is, however, doing many thing well. He obviously gets good results with many people. He is great at marketing himself, just as David Leadbetter is.

[Mathew]

Who did Mr. Haney learn from... was it not Jim Hardy? I've heard him speak at a couple of P.G.A. Teaching seminars. His idea of plane had something to do with congruent lines. He said he did not understand the big deal about lag. He thought the guys that had a lot lag(probably Accumulator Lag) were usually short hitters.

Now... I've seen a video of Evan Williams(Big Cat), and he has Accumulator Lag, Clubhead Lag... and probably Pivot Lag, and he destroys the ball!! I suppose there are some lagging short hitters, but there are LONG ONES TOO.

Mr. Haney is, however, doing many thing well. He obviously gets good results with many people. He is great at marketing himself, just as David Leadbetter is.

Basically their concept is that the clubshaft is always parallel to the original plane angle - plane angle doesn't change yet the baseline does - the reverse of the truth... their plane line just became a U shape... - its rubbish mind you - with this theory there can be no downplane force. This doesn't stop Tiger subconciously knowing he needs to adjust to create one though....

[lagster]

There are various PLANE THEORIES out there.

Don Trahan, "The Swing Surgeon"... believes the butt of the club should point at the line the toes are on throughout the backswing, and much of the downswing. His son D.J. Trahan, does pretty much do this, and plays well.

Jimmy Ballard believes that the club is on plane as long as it is pointing somewhere between the line the toes are on, and the line the ball is on.

Davis Leadbetter believes the plane is BENT at some point.

Jim Hardy is talking about the plane of the shoulders.

I believe... not many people know about SWEETSPOT PLANE.

Of course, if you are looking at PLANE with a camera, you better have the camera positioned correctly, and/or consistently.

[annikan skywalker]

There are various PLANE THEORIES out there.

Don Trahan, "The Swing Surgeon"... believes the butt of the club should point at the line the toes are on throughout the backswing, and much of the downswing. His son D.J. Trahan, does pretty much do this, and plays well.

Jimmy Ballard believes that the club is on plane as long as it is pointing somewhere between the line the toes are on, and the line the ball is on.

Davis Leadbetter believes the plane is BENT at some point.

Jim Hardy is talking about the plane of the shoulders.

I believe... not many people know about SWEETSPOT PLANE.

Of course, if you are looking at PLANE with a camera, you better have the camera positioned correctly, and/or consistently.

Looking at your All-Star list..one thing is apparently TRUE...None of them are really sure what in the he77 they are talking about....But they all really know what they are doing...that is what Brian said earlier...blowin smoke....and not necessarily with mirrors...but up people's arses...

Hell you can't get them to agree on camera positioning....Most have it too low and on the target line...This makes the swing appear longer that it is and makes it appear more inside..thus the birth of the parallax..that they teach...

In order to get accurate pictures...you cannot use one camera...you need several depending on what you're looking for..or better yet...a 3D program...that's the best way to get it right.....

[annikan skywalker]

BTW...Great Post Jimbo!!!