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Old 06-26-2006, 12:57 PM
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Let's look at real world evidence. Most pros have the leading edge either "square" or slightly "open" at the Top, because most have a neutral grip with a Flat or slightly Bent Left Wrist at the Top. Amateurs have it all over the place.

I agree with you that amateurs have it all over the place.Does the flat left wrist fix this fault or is that too simplistic?

I'm not a teacher but I see this all the time with higher handicap players and how would you go about fixing it?
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mp33
Let's look at real world evidence. Most pros have the leading edge either "square" or slightly "open" at the Top, because most have a neutral grip with a Flat or slightly Bent Left Wrist at the Top. Amateurs have it all over the place.

I agree with you that amateurs have it all over the place.Does the flat left wrist fix this fault or is that too simplistic?

I'm not a teacher but I see this all the time with higher handicap players and how would you go about fixing it?
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The TOP position is important... due to the effect of the 3rd law(action-reaction). However, golfers do seem to be able to play well from many TOP positions of the clubface. This shows that the TOP position can be important, but not as important as "HOW YOU BRING IT DOWN."

Lee Trevion describes himself as "a blocker," because of his STRONG GRIP and Top clubface position. I think he has done pretty well "blocking."

The Strong Single Action Grip, which is more of a "neutral grip"(in common golf lingo) usually gives more of an appearance at the TOP of the Square Clubface, and fairly FLAT Left Wrist(not arched). This allows for Horizontal Hinging, or what many would call a FULL RELEASE.

So... GRIP, WRIST ACTION, and HINGE ACTION, all working properly together, is what many people need.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mp33

I agree with you that amateurs have it all over the place.Does the flat left wrist fix this fault or is that too simplistic?

I'm not a teacher but I see this all the time with higher handicap players and how would you go about fixing it?
Typical profile of a good hacker:
Strong left hand grip, bent left wrist at the top, outside in clubhead path.

Fix:
First fix everything that looks very obviously wrong, e.g. stance is aimed 40 yards open, spine angle vertical at address, head opposite left foot at address, etc. Then flatten left wrist at the top. This should result in hooks and pull hooks, especially if the student knows how to finish swivel properly. Then neutralise grip. Then fix the clubshaft at the top and startdown.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Typical profile of a good hacker:
Strong left hand grip, bent left wrist at the top, outside in clubhead path.

Fix:
First fix everything that looks very obviously wrong, e.g. stance is aimed 40 yards open, spine angle vertical at address, head opposite left foot at address, etc. Then flatten left wrist at the top. This should result in hooks and pull hooks, especially if the student knows how to finish swivel properly. Then neutralise grip. Then fix the clubshaft at the top and startdown.
hmmm...where did ya get that stuff from, tong?

was it your own research???......let me see your evidence that this works.....)
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:27 AM
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hmmm...where did ya get that stuff from, tong?

was it your own research???......let me see your evidence that this works.....)
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:16 PM
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I like to ask a simple question. At impact isn't the clubface suppose to be shut or hooded? No one really mentions this, and I wonder this is the "hookface" HK is describing that is built in the irons?
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:49 PM
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I like to ask a simple question. At impact isn't the clubface suppose to be shut or hooded? No one really mentions this, and I wonder this is the "hookface" HK is describing that is built in the irons?

The Hookface diverts the ball to a Straight Path from a Circular Path. The Clubface should Close Only and not Hood. Hooding produces a Downward Compression which is the job of the Clubhead moving down and out On Plane during the Impact Interval.

You could use Hooding as a specialty shot.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:54 PM
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I like to ask a simple question. At impact isn't the clubface suppose to be shut or hooded? No one really mentions this, and I wonder this is the "hookface" HK is describing that is built in the irons?
You'd need to define what you mean by shut or hooded. It'll be part of the process in answering your question. Regardless, no it's not the hookface that HK is describing.
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You'd need to define what you mean by shut or hooded. It'll be part of the process in answering your question. Regardless, no it's not the hookface that HK is describing.
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:42 PM
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Given that a good iron shot is hit ball then turf, it seems to me that the clubface should be facing towards the ground at impact. So a "shutting" clubface IMHO is one that pointing toward ground with big divot. As opposed to a" closing" clubface which I associate with a sweeping feeling taking a little divot.
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