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Old 06-26-2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mp33
I understand that if you have a problem with your swing you might need to change the clubface first.Now I have played and watched alot of golf and I have noticed a greater percentage of golfers with a severely shut clubface at the top then open.I would even say 85-90% and usually they slice the ball.
Nick Faldo says you can play pretty good golf with a open or square clubface but it becomes harder when the clubface is closed.
What does TGM think about this and how do you correct it? I think closed club you better not horizontal hinge but use angled.
I tried a closed at the Top Clubface years ago and couldn't hit the ball. Normally I need to have the Clubshaft leading perfectly and on the Sweetspot Plane to develop good lag and impact. My clubface would look a little open at the top.
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:52 PM
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I like a "Trevino face" for short clubs (Angled Hinge always)...crisper, lower trajectory.

"Hogan face" (more open) for long clubs (less hook prone)....(whatever Hinge I want).
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Old 06-27-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
I like a "Trevino face" for short clubs (Angled Hinge always)...crisper, lower trajectory.
Sure about that one?
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:45 PM
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(are you just joking with me??? Can't tell!! Disregard below if it's a yes....ackagabajhajhr! lol)

For me...

Esp. with wedges....

I mean....

Still experimenting some but right now it's what I do.

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Jim...how bout I give you an answer in a few days....

(I do think it's better for wedges tho).

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Old 06-28-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
lower trajectory.
There, i'm being more specific...as i said:

are you sure?
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
There, i'm being more specific...as i said:

are you sure?
Well not with a full-roll and/or a more back ball position I guess......

I just find it easier (for now).....esp. for wedges and half wedges.

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BTW I know what you're thinking Jim!

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Old 06-28-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
Well not with a full-roll and/or a more back ball position I guess......

I just find it easier (for now).....esp. for wedges and half wedges.

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BTW I know what you're thinking Jim!

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Nope, by defination an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.

So if you find it easier to hit lower wedges with an angled hinge you probably have a delofted club through the ball, little axis tilt, and probably a back ball position. THOSE all facilitate the the lower ball flight than the angled hinge does.
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
Nope, by defination an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.
OK..........if everything else remains equal yes......but not always, every time, no matter what.....

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I said with a "Trevino clubface"....which I always use an Angled Hinge with.....

It generally, and more easily/comfortably (more comfortable for me anyway) flies lower than my other method of clubface control. (no matter what Hinge I use with this other method of clubface control)

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Lots of Axis Tilt BTW.....

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And again....still experimenting (some)......really tho it's closer to fine-tuning than experimenting at this point I think.

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Jim....you have to realize that I mostly only mean for wedges...pitches....etc.

I just favour it (SSA grip...i.e. "matching grip".....+ Single WA with slight Arch) more than SSA + Stanard Wrist Action + w/e Hinge....at this point....

.....again....for short clubs/short shots/some punch shots.

Like I said....maybe if I tinker a bit I can give you a better answer....I haven't golfed much lately man.

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Old 06-28-2006, 11:34 PM
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Angled Hinging -- the Necessity For Varying Trajectory
Originally Posted by jim_0068

...by definition an angled hinge will fly higher than a horizontal hinge.
Sorry, Jim...t'ain't necessarily so!

Horizontal Hinging has only "one hole in the sky," i.e., the Clubface Closes Only.

Assuming Angled Hinging (some Clubface Layback) or Vertical Hinging (only Clubfaced Layback)...

Pick a hole!

With Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight. In contrast, the further forward (Down Plane) you locate the Ball, the higher the Ball flight.

So, Horizontal Hinging offers only one trajectory for a given club in a given set of Clubs. In effect, 'one hole' in the sky. Only with Angled or Vertical Hinging can Trajectory -- higher or lower -- be effected.
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Old 06-29-2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Sorry, Jim...t'ain't necessarily so!

Horizontal Hinging has only "one hole in the sky," i.e., the Clubface Closes Only.

Assuming Angled Hinging (some Clubface Layback) or Vertical Hinging (only Clubfaced Layback)...

Pick a hole!

With Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight. In contrast, the further forward (Down Plane) you locate the Ball, the higher the Ball flight.

So, Horizontal Hinging offers only one trajectory for a given club in a given set of Clubs. In effect, 'one hole' in the sky. Only with Angled or Vertical Hinging can Trajectory -- higher or lower -- be effected.
Excussssse me for not saying "all things being equal."

And you just proved my point...

Originally Posted by Yoda
with Angled or Vertical Hinge Action, the further back (Up Plane) you locate the Ball, the lower the Ball Flight.
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