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Old 08-06-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Finney
What's the root cause of the "inadequate weight transfer"?

anyone?....
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Inadequate knowledge of the golf swing

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Old 08-06-2006, 03:50 PM
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Look at this weight transfer!
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Old 08-06-2006, 06:44 PM
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Clubhead was movin up there.
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Old 08-06-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Finney
What's the root cause of the "inadequate weight transfer"?

anyone?....
Bueller?
What is it Mike?
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:57 PM
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What is it Mike?
An "inadequate weight transfer" is a golfer's sometimes futile attempt to get the ball to start more to the left because he has an OPEN CLUBFACE......

as root causes go, the OPEN CLUBFACE at separation is a blockbuster...and the cause of most of the "ungolflike" motions on the driving ranges near you.....but you already knew that, leo...didn't you?
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Finney
An "inadequate weight transfer" is a golfer's sometimes futile attempt to get the ball to start more to the left because he has an OPEN CLUBFACE......

as root causes go, the OPEN CLUBFACE at separation is a blockbuster...and the cause of most of the "ungolflike" motions on the driving ranges near you.....but you already knew that, leo...didn't you?
Thanks Mike...I get it. Seems like almost everything has to do with the clubface.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:52 PM
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I’ve read through all the posts in this thread and see that nobody has really addressed the root cause. OTT is caused by inadequate weight transfer. With the feet touching (as a drill for balance) OTT is almost impossible. Once the feet are separated, we have two axes (plural of axis) to deal with, the backswing axis over the right foot, and the downswing axis over the left foot, separated by the weightSHIFT. Starting the downswing over the wrong axis invariably leads to OTT and other problems.
When i use the 'right foot back' drill i don't come OTT - i'm thinking because i can see a nice big alley way from the top back down to the ball (i.e. right hip is not in the way). Is this still related to weightshift? i think my OTT is subconciously avoiding the elbow/hip collision because i'm definately not intending on doing it.

When i think about the pivot or weightshift however i tend to get to much swaying and leg drive going on....
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:53 AM
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When i use the 'right foot back' drill i don't come OTT - i'm thinking because i can see a nice big alley way from the top back down to the ball (i.e. right hip is not in the way). Is this still related to weightshift? i think my OTT is subconciously avoiding the elbow/hip collision because i'm definately not intending on doing it.

When i think about the pivot or weightshift however i tend to get to much swaying and leg drive going on....
You have to approach this problem in baby steps. Try the feet-together-drill with Pitching Wedge to Driver, then short chip shots with the irons, slowly increasing stance width. It's not something that's going to happen overnight
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:15 PM
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You have to approach this problem in baby steps. Try the feet-together-drill with Pitching Wedge to Driver, then short chip shots with the irons, slowly increasing stance width. It's not something that's going to happen overnight
Hey weightshift

Some good thoughts there. Many people (teachers and students) have said how wonderful they hit the ball when their feet are together. I would like to expand on this drill with some thoughts to try and help him a little further, and what it concerns is that of moving the head - bobbing and swaying.

However people rely on their crutch of swaying and are thus lazy to fully pivot.... When they are told to keep a stationary head usually they don't pivot because it takes an effort, then golf instructors in their efforts to get results quick, tell them to move it back...etc etc.

Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead...etc etc all emphasise it in their literature with the stationary head as the ideal. Jack Nicklaus called it golfs unarguable fundamental. It amazes me looking back when I was learning to play a bit when was a kid from books, that I would listen to a teacher like leadbetter and others over sources of the best players....

Weight shift is a result of the hip motion under the stationary head and its not a big huge thing. Good golfers can't lift their left foot off the ground for example....

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Old 08-07-2006, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
Hey weightshift

...Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead...etc etc all emphasise it in their literature with the stationary head as the ideal. Jack Nicklaus called it golfs unarguable fundamental....
Weight shift is a result of the hip motion under the stationary head and its not a big huge thing. Good golfers can't lift their left foot off the ground for example....

A stationary head is an ideal... correct? Hogan's head was not fixed ...it moved a little back on the backswing and forward and down on the downswing transition. Maybe it was stationary relative to the rest of his body motion during the backswing to downswing transition.
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