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Old 03-02-2005, 08:23 PM
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Being a new hitter,is it OK to drag load the swing when hitting as i do when i am swinging?Can't tell you how great it is to be able to hit and Swing?i must say Homer is right Hitting is easier when it is learnt.I find less can go wrong and when it does its easier to fix.
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Old 03-02-2005, 08:58 PM
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Being a new hitter,is it OK to drag load the swing when hitting as i do when i am swinging?Can't tell you how great it is to be able to hit and Swing?i must say Homer is right Hitting is easier when it is learnt.I find less can go wrong and when it does its easier to fix.
If you are a Hitter, then your right arm is drive loading. Drag loading is Swinging. From what I have read, it is possible to drag load for the right arm swinger but not recommended. If done incorrectly there is a potential for ligament damage to the inside of the elbow. Check 7-19, last paragraph.
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Old 03-02-2005, 09:06 PM
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Quote is incorrect....LIGAMENT DAMAGE IS IN REFERENCE TO HITTERS in 7-19.


I use the right arm swing....

Don't hit up at release and don't use downstroke loading and you will be fine....


Right Arm swingers...

Jodie Mudd
Ernie Els
Retief Goosen

Harvey Penick taught the right arm swing....go to the little red book "The Magic Move" page 96.....

Ben Crenshaw
Tom Kite


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Old 03-02-2005, 09:26 PM
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DG,

How are you sure that Retief and Ernie are "right arm swingers"?

What kind of shots/results do you personally have with this pattern? How does it compare to a standard hitting or swinging pattern for you?
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Old 03-02-2005, 09:37 PM
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DG,

How are you sure that Retief and Ernie are "right arm swingers"?

What kind of shots/results do you personally have with this pattern? How does it compare to a standard hitting or swinging pattern for you?

I don't see how Penick's Magic move ( left foot back down to the ground, the weight moves forward as the right elbow moves close to the side as the right arm comes down) and anyone that refers to it - is a right arm swinger.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:15 PM
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Mike,

First you need to quote it right....."to start the downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body...." the KEY WORD IS 'LET' repeat that to yourself ....as Harvey said it’s ONE move not TWO.

As I have said in the past,….in Real Estate, it’s location, location, location….in TGM and GOLF… it’s interpretation, interpretation, interpretation…..

Tomasello taught the exact same move.....Tomasello just define the action to a higher degree....the muscles of the right forearm bring the elbow back down to your body (Magic of the Right Forearm).....the weight shift is in response to the arms moving down.....

The next time you’re in a Borders or Barnes and Noble bookstore....go and read Ernie Els's book...."How to Build a Classic Golf Swing"...he uses the same move as Tomasello and Penick....checkout p. 41 for starters....

This past weekend on ABC....Ian Baker-Finch did an analysis in slow motion of Retief Goosen's swing....the comments were " it's all right arm"....if you go to an ABC tour event, you will see Ian on the driving range talking with the players, I wouldn't be surprised that Ian talked to Retief about his swing....


I would recommend you read Ernie's book before responding to this messsage....I don't want to argue about it....


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Old 03-02-2005, 11:41 PM
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Am i right in saying that you cannot drag load if you are a hitter?you have to drive load.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:57 PM
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Am i right in saying that you cannot drag load if you are a hitter?you have to drive load.
Correct. Drag Loading 10-19-C "The Rope Handle" Technique is for Swinging. Drive Loading 10-19-A "The Axe Handle" technique is for Hitting.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:39 AM
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Loading And Wrist Action -- Hitting Vs. Swinging
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Am i right in saying that you cannot drag load if you are a hitter?you have to drive load.
As Drew has stated, Drag Loading is most compatible with Swinging and Drive Loading is most compatible with Hitting.

However, the Hitter can Drag Load as long as the Loading Action (of the Left Wrist) and the tendency toward Horizontal Hinging is recognized and compensated. Similarly, the Swinger can Drive Load as long as the Loading Action (of the Right Elbow) and the tendency toward Angled Hinging is compensated.

Also, Mr. Kelley had no quarrel with Hitters who choose to initiate the Start Down with the Swinger's Standard Wrist Action (and not the Hitter's Single Wrist Action) in order to prevent driving the Hosel (only) -- and not the Sweet Spot -- toward Impact.
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:20 PM
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What if one just went to the strong double action grip?

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