This thread is for anyone that would like to stay on topic in 12-1. You can take it to the bank that I choose to live by 12-1 and 12-2 when beginning someone on the path to success. After successful mastery, variations are an option 'with reservations.'
Can one hit successfully and use horizontal hinging?
Channelback
It depends on the use of the word successfully. I believe that it can be done, but optimizing a person's potential is the goal. Can one be better using the proper hinge action? Maybe, maybe not...
Angled is what's desired.
Here is where you can really help me lift a little fog. If angled hinge is the preferred hinge for hitting, then what are the necessary adjustments one must make to compensate for the fade tendancy? Is it body alignment or is it clubface or is it ball position? If I take a square stance and use a hitting stroke with angled hinge, the ball should start at the target then fall right OR start right of the target and fall right?
At the moment, this is big for me. Thanks for your input.
Here is where you can really help me lift a little fog. If angled hinge is the preferred hinge for hitting, then what are the necessary adjustments one must make to compensate for the fade tendancy? Is it body alignment or is it clubface or is it ball position? If I take a square stance and use a hitting stroke with angled hinge, the ball should start at the target then fall right OR start right of the target and fall right?
At the moment, this is big for me. Thanks for your input.
Terry
Terry,
The clubface in angled hinging is closing and laying back simultaneously. Homer used the word fade in his book, and we have to assume that he meant a "controlled" slice (my words). It's funny to those of us in the pro business; because, we were instructed for many years that there was no such thing as a fade or draw. The ball either hooks or slices, and does so to different degrees. There's no quantitative measure to say whether a ball faded or sliced, and my measure may be different than anyone else. So, I'm off my soapbox; but, I had to add that little sidebar. I always laugh when I hear someone speaking of a "true draw" or "true fade."
I find such little movement in my own application, that it's almost not worth discussing. In my best sub par rounds, I do feel like the ball is fading slightly. Because of previous instruction, I had a hook that wouldn't stop. So, anything that keeps from turning left is perfect to me (Hogan and I are similar in at least one respect). As far as alignment goes, it's obvious that you wouldn't want to align yourself to the target if you know that it's going to fade (unless death awaits you left of the target). I would say that my alignment does favor a left alignment.
Now, in order to turn the ball to a greater extent (hooks and slices), I do place the club open or shut in my 10-2-B grip and adjust the alignment to the right or left of the target. Those are the unusual times that hitting it straight is not an option.
Where are you hands at Top if we were looking from a down the line view?
In-Line with the Right Shoulder? Between the Shoulder and Ear?
Reason I ask . . .
I did some video and my plane was steep IMO. My swing was still relatively short, but my hands were high. More towards the ear than shoulder. I think I have over-cooked the pick-up.
Can you perform an effective Hitting procedure with high hands? My gut tells me no.
Where are you hands at Top if we were looking from a down the line view?
In-Line with the Right Shoulder? Between the Shoulder and Ear?
Reason I ask . . .
I did some video and my plane was steep IMO. My swing was still relatively short, but my hands were high. More towards the ear than shoulder. I think I have over-cooked the pick-up.
Can you perform an effective Hitting procedure with high hands? My gut tells me no.
Thanks!
BucketFried
I do use turned shoulder plane. My hands stop at top, in front of my right sholder. As far as plane shifts go, hitting and swinging become more complicated as the plane shifts. I'd rather teach you to hit with no shifting.
The reason I asked about hitting successfully with horizontal hinging is that I am having a heck of a time performing angled hinging. I guess it's because I taught myself to "release" by rolling my right arm over the left. Of course, because of the weather here I havn't been able to hit real balls anyway. Is angled hinging a result of little or no clockwise rotation of the lead arm on the backswing?
The reason I asked about hitting successfully with horizontal hinging is that I am having a heck of a time performing angled hinging. I guess it's because I taught myself to "release" by rolling my right arm over the left. Of course, because of the weather here I havn't been able to hit real balls anyway. Is angled hinging a result of little or no clockwise rotation of the lead arm on the backswing?
Thanks
Channelback
Angled hinging is the result of the pushing force. It is prepared in the backswing. The overtaking, or right forearm passing your line of sight creates the action to follow-through.
Is angled hinging a result of little or no clockwise rotation of the lead arm on the backswing?
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