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Old 12-05-2006, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
Surely for the swinger the arms and the hands job is to transmitt CF. To do this surely they need to be relaxed, i would think any muscular effort would be disruptive.

As far as Freddie goes to me he's the epitome of a swinger efficiently transfering CF through relaxed arms and wrists.

The grip tightens significantly (assuming the golfer doesn't have a death grip at address) by the time impact is reached involuntarily so as to stabilize the club. When the club is swinging over 100mph you don't want to have your Great Grandmother's grip on it, otherwise the club would go flying. Most people cannot force themselves to swing faster than their grip strength would allow, doing so would mean the club would leave your hands. Research that was published in Golf Magazine a few years ago indicates that people with more grip strength swing the club faster.

As an aside, I think it is entirely possible that some of Comdpa's swing speed increase came as a result of his grip strength catching up to his ability to apply force with his body. According to Bob Bush's research 70% of a golfer's power comes from the right shoulder. Certainly a person can hit the ball over 30% of their actual distance with just the left arm, but the most efficient way to swing a club is considered to apply most of the force with the right arm and shoulder (my interpretation of Bush's research).

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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:26 AM
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Matt, i agree with what you say about the grip, i think it's very important to have strong hands. Primarily because strong hands means you can have a secure, stable grip and retain relaxed muscles.

In my post i was really talking about how i can't see how strengthing muscles to physically uncock the wrists faster can help a swinger. Also i certaintly don't see how Freddy can be used as an example of a golfer who uses this technique and not his pivot to create power.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
Matt, i agree with what you say about the grip, i think it's very important to have strong hands. Primarily because strong hands means you can have a secure, stable grip and retain relaxed muscles.

In my post i was really talking about how i can't see how strengthing muscles to physically uncock the wrists faster can help a swinger. Also i certaintly don't see how Freddy can be used as an example of a golfer who uses this technique and not his pivot to create power.
I really don't know what my opinion is of working the muscles below the elbow to perform more quickly. This is nothing I had ever thought about prior to Comdpa referencing it. As far as Freddie is concerned, I would argue he is able to swing that quickly, allow CF to increase his swing speed, because he is able to grip the club firmly. This cannot be done without serious forearm muscle contraction. Some of the guys with really fast swing speed and low body fat percentage (Sergio and Villegas are great examples). They have tremendous contraction of the forearms at the bottom. Perhaps the key is to relax the arms and allow the force of the swing to contract them. Perhaps this would provide the Freddie look of being relaxed and being a "slave" to CF.

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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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