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Old 05-18-2005, 06:23 PM
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Tom Stickney in Golf Tips magazine talked about an accurate swing using a "zero shift". The disadvantage, according to Tom, is somewhat less distance.

My question: Accuracy is important, obviously, but how much distance to you tend to sacrifice employing a "zero shift"????

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Old 05-18-2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fdb2
Tom Stickney in Golf Tips magazine talked about an accurate swing using a "zero shift". The disadvantage, according to Tom, is somewhat less distance.

My question: Accuracy is important, obviously, but how much distance to you tend to sacrifice employing a "zero shift"????

Thanks in advance for responses.
It seemed to me that his definition of "zero shift" and Mr. K's are a little different. Reference 10-7.
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Old 05-19-2005, 06:49 AM
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I am not familiar with his teaching, but it is my understanding that plane shifts equate to a distance loss, so zero shift is infact more powerful.
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Old 05-19-2005, 07:22 AM
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The link to Stickney's article...
http://www.golfillustrated.com/reports/5swingflaws.pdf
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:43 AM
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Thanks for posting the reference. That article was more complete than the " Golf Tips' piece and explains everything.
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Old 05-20-2005, 11:24 AM
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Yes. Golf illustrated is much better
I will have to look up "the triple shift" in the book to refresh my memory because the article was not quite clear to me.

It is great to see TGM is making it into mainstream media.

It's about time Golf gets principled instruction.

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Old 05-20-2005, 08:27 PM
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I question the accuracy of Mr. Stickney's analysis and/or interpretation of plane angle variations...I believe calling Ernie's swing a double shift is incorrect....

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Old 05-22-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I question the accuracy of Mr. Stickney's analysis and/or interpretation of plane angle variations...I believe calling Ernie's swing a double shift is incorrect....

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Using the RedGoat sequence, and including PP3, I see a shift going back but he seems very close to the TSP in the move down. However, that sequence is 03 and recently the clubhead was outside the hands at the first check point. When his clip from the Gallery could be loaded, I was using the mouse pointer on his head and hips to check movement- If that could just be "bottled!"

BTW, the Els clip has not stimulated much discussion or have I missed it?

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Ok, here's the Els clip from the other thread:

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/els.htm

I am reasonably convinced Els is using a Single Shift.

But I know Delaware does not agree- he thinks it's Zero Shift.

Let the debate begin...

EDIT: oh yes, and I'm certain it's not a Double Shift! Not on this clip anyway.
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Ok, here's the Els clip from the other thread:

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/els.htm

I am reasonably convinced Els is using a Single Shift.

But I know Delaware does not agree- he thinks it's Zero Shift.

Let the debate begin...

EDIT: oh yes, and I'm certain it's not a Double Shift! Not on this clip anyway.

Nada Shift....plain and simple...


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