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Old 05-24-2005, 08:08 PM
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When using the elbow plane, my hands took the circle path instead of the straight path in coming down. And after impact, the club will go to the left instead of to the right (i.e. impact at aft and to the low point therefore to the right from impact to separation). Is this normal or should it still be going to the right?
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:35 PM
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Right Shoulder Support And Guidance
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Considering the Elbow Plane is most commonly used, when selected, is it correct to conclude that the Shoulder will provide the greatest support and guidance to the Stroke (7-13) if the player elects to single shift to the TSP?
Yes, Doc, per 7-13.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:39 PM
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Impact Geometry
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When using the elbow plane, my hands took the circle path instead of the straight path in coming down. And after impact, the club will go to the left instead of to the right (i.e. impact at aft and to the low point therefore to the right from impact to separation). Is this normal or should it still be going to the right?
Per 1-L #13: "The Clubhead travels Down-and-Out until it reaches its "Low Point."
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Old 06-13-2005, 12:45 PM
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Made this sequence to help me decode this thread. Don't know if it helps anyone yet, not even sure it helps myself. Anyway here it is.

I did not have the tools to make the line appear in the exact same place in all images. My idea was to make what I beleive is the "turned shoulder plane line".



NOW I will go on with the reading.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by metallion
Made this sequence to help me decode this thread. Don't know if it helps anyone yet, not even sure it helps myself. Anyway here it is.

I did not have the tools to make the line appear in the exact same place in all images. My idea was to make what I beleive is the "turned shoulder plane line".

NOW I will go on with the reading.
Fantastic work Metallion!

And for those who still believe that this is a Zero Shift variation...
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:47 PM
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Fantastic work Metallion!

And for those who still believe that this is a Zero Shift variation...
I simply do not know. Judging by hunters stickmen I's say it is closer to zero shift than to single-shift as he is so quick to reach sweetspot plane (already pic #2). If he'd had a forward press to impact fix it might have been a clean zero shift. I might think... Hey. I am still learning

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Old 06-13-2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Originally Posted by metallion
Made this sequence to help me decode this thread. Don't know if it helps anyone yet, not even sure it helps myself. Anyway here it is.

I did not have the tools to make the line appear in the exact same place in all images. My idea was to make what I beleive is the "turned shoulder plane line".

NOW I will go on with the reading.
Fantastic work Metallion!

And for those who still believe that this is a Zero Shift variation...

Yup,

It's still a zero shift variation.

DG
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:35 AM
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I was monitoring movement using my mouse pointer on parts of EE's body at the Gallery clip but can no longer view it. This clip seems to agree that the head position from address to impact is very stable, while the hands are "significantly" higher at impact.

While interested in the plane shift subject, my question would be why the hands at address are not closer to their impact position. Are the equipment manufacturers dictating this position? Also, is there any significance to his shoulder turn being perpendicular to the spine instead of flatter?

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Old 06-14-2005, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by metallion
Made this sequence to help me decode this thread. Don't know if it helps anyone yet, not even sure it helps myself. Anyway here it is.

I did not have the tools to make the line appear in the exact same place in all images. My idea was to make what I beleive is the "turned shoulder plane line".



NOW I will go on with the reading.
Fredrik, my "bash" buddy.

Nicely done!

If you have the energy or the time, please draw a few more lines. When drawing your lines, please reference the book pics as close as possible. Note that we are referencing clubShaft control. Draw a line up the shaft at address. Draw a second line like 10-6-b and please note where it bisects the arm pit. Third line shoulder tip area. Upon completion, have a plane party.

Got further questions, please contact Henning or I because if you recall, we wore this out.

Take care my friend.

Randy (Proud to be Arne's COACH)
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