Well, the answer is somewhere between too much and too little.
I am kidding...
Book out please...
To recap, why do we need the Hip Slide?
...for proper shoulder motion Per 2-H ""On Plane" Right Shoulder Motion is possible only by tilting its axis - the spine."
...to prevent roundhousing Per 10-5-0 "Round Housing in the effort to avoid Hip and Right Elbow collisions - in both directions."
Per 7-14 "...and so avoid Right Elbow and Hip interference and its "Roundhousing" Throwaway (4-D-0) during the Start Down."
...to harness Centrifugal Force Per 2-L "Concerning #2 - a rotating motion will pass through a given point if the axis is tilted properly..."
How much to Slide?
Per 7-14 "Not otherwise could the weight be shifted and the Shoulder Turn Axis be tilted without moving the Head."
In summary, your slide is sufficient if it allows the hips to clear without moving the head. This is the Hula Hula Flexibility Mr Kelly speaks of.
What is Round Housing?
Roundhousing causes your shoulders to go over the downstroke plane which usually should be the Turned Shoulder Plane.
Per 7-13 "...you will "run out of Right Arm" before the Hands reach Impact Position - an automatic Throwaway (7-14, 8-6)"
Per 6-H-C "Take all Strokes to the Both Arms Straight Position (8-11)". If you are not able to execute this, it is a sure sign that you are roundhousing.
Simple drill to ingrain an "Underhand Pitch Feel"
1) Take a golf stance against a wall.
2) Place the left hand against the wall and lock it there.
3) Do your Right Forearm Takeaway.
4) Swing the Right Arm under the left.
5) Observe that your right shoulder is automatically under the left.
Your next question...what is Down, Out and Forward?
Per 2-C-0 "Your main lines of defense are the Flat Left Wrist, Hinge Action and a Three Dimensional Downstroke - that is, DOWNward (Attack Angle) AND OUTward (Plane Angle) AND FORward (Approach Angle)..."
To understand "DOWN"...Look at a swing sequence from a face on view. From the top, notice how the hands come DOWN to Impact Hand Location.
To understand "OUT"...Look at a swing sequence from a Down The Line perspective. From the top, notice how the hands move OUT to Impact Hand Location.
To understand "FORWARD"..Look at a swing sequence from an Overhead view. From the top again, notice how the hands move FORWARD to Impact Hand Location.
I appreciate that without pictures it is hard to understand the 3-D downstroke. If Annikan could illustrate 2-C-0, it would be great!
This is my biggest problem hopefully i can get it fixed.
I appreciate that without pictures it is hard to understand the 3-D downstroke.
Maybe this is what you mean
Issued from Tiger's book "How I play golf" (Golf Digest Editions)
Comdpa, you really know what you are speaking about!!!
Merci
I appreciate that without pictures it is hard to understand the 3-D downstroke.
Maybe this is what you mean
Issued from Tiger's book "How I play golf" (Golf Digest Editions)
Comdpa, you really know what you are speaking about!!!
Merci
Again, thanks for the kind words...you make me blush...
Fabulous pictures my friend...
The first row shows "down"....
The second row shows "out"...
The third row shows "forward"...
And they all collectively show us a 3-Dimensional Downstroke and the resultant 3-Dimensional Impact for a "truly well hit ball"
Per 2-B "A truly well hit Ball (Three Dimensional Impact 2-C-0)..."
Okay, "Down" I get. Its the opposite of up. "Forward" I get--towards the target line. But "Out" cooks my noodle a bit. Out to which direction? Many thanks for any light you care to shed.
I have read that the uncompensated, maximum support, stroke includes having the trail shoulder and forearm on the same plane as the shaft at impact, the Turned Shoulder Plane. Only, I can't see how that is possible without having a straight trail arm. Unless you only need the bottom edge of the shoulder to sit on the plane for it to be considered on the Turned Shoulder Plane, maybe that is the answer... From all the pics I've seen where the shaft is on the Turned Shoulder Plane at impact, either the trail shoulder or forearm are not on the TSP.
Comdpa, you've said that the trail shoulder should remain on plane in the Downstroke as long as it needs to. What are the determining factors?