Speed Training w/ Speedchain

[Sonic_Doom]

Its tough to find all the different sizes of chain and know the different lengths to fit together. Home depot has chain, but it would take some trial and error to get it right.

You cant get them anywhere else that I know of.

I've had the chains for about a year now, using them off and on, more off. I gained probably 7-10 mph right away, and I mean instantly. I haven't got the speed increse up as far as I'd like yet but I think with routine work I could see higher gains. It gives lag and drag new meaning, its like anti-flip therapy.

That article (an older one) actually led me to this site. The SC forum mentioned this place in one of their threads and to check out some of the Tomasello videos of the flail.

As for the article, I think there some merit to the strech-shorten cycle thing, and the faster tempo. As was said earlier if your alignments are o.k. then some more speed always helps.

Hey DG-does your husband golf?, maybe he would like a set!

[Delaware Golf]

Its tough to find all the different sizes of chain and know the different lengths to fit together. Home depot has chain, but it would take some trial and error to get it right.

You cant get them anywhere else that I know of.

I've had the chains for about a year now, using them off and on, more off. I gained probably 7-10 mph right away, and I mean instantly. I haven't got the speed increse up as far as I'd like yet but I think with routine work I could see higher gains. It gives lag and drag new meaning, its like anti-flip therapy.

That article (an older one) actually led me to this site. The SC forum mentioned this place in one of their threads and to check out some of the Tomasello videos of the flail.

As for the article, I think there some merit to the strech-shorten cycle thing, and the faster tempo. As was said earlier if your alignments are o.k. then some more speed always helps.

Hey DG-does your husband golf?, maybe he would like a set!

Sonic_Doom your husband needs all the help he can get you better buy him two sets...one for each arm!!! Yes, see Chapter 5 on "Power" of the Tomasello Australia video series...there you will find all that you need to know on Power...it's in "The Magic of the Right Forearm".

BTW, call me the next time you see PGA Tour pros out on the driving of a PGA Tour event swinging a speedchain...

I'll stick with weighted clubs...I can swing a weighted club anywhere, indoors/outdoors no problem.

DG

[bwkitche]

The whole article is junk- for me. I just can't even get motivation to read it again- and I just skimmed it the first time. That said - I'm certainly not saying that given the proper perspective that one might be able to pull out a couple of perspectives that might be helpful. So what are the points that you would say should be taken away from it.

To me, the most salient point is that being stronger and more flexible does not necessarily translate into more clubhead speed. Certainly, they both help with overall fitness and health, which is why I take the time to do them, but general fitness does not equate to being able to move/swing faster. Getting a lot stronger on bench press, pull ups, and squats has not made me any faster.

I also think their points regarding the stretch shorten cycle of muscles are worth considering.

Also, I'm not saying it's a panacea for all things golf or that you should ignore alignments and just swing this thing to fix your golf swing. I was just curious if folks thought this would be something that would be a useful addition to the "quest" to get better at a game we all love.

Bacc

[Sonic_Doom]

Delaware Golf,

In all seriousness, its not that loud or dangerous even for indoor use. The benefits are worth it IMO, I bet you don't mind scaring off the wildlife at the golf course (that is of course on the rare occasion you hit it into their habitat)

BTW, call me the next time you see PGA Tour pros out on the driving of a PGA Tour event swinging a speedchain...

What's your number? I heard Brian Gay was using them, as well as Freddy Funk, Charles Howell and others. It does do a number on the turf though so you probably won't see them at a tour range. If its good enough for LBG,,,

I'll stick with weighted clubs...I can swing a weighted club anywhere, indoors/outdoors no problem.

That's fine, just don't expect to increase your clubhead speed (much).

Yes, see Chapter 5 on "Power" of the Tomasello Australia video series...there you will find all that you need to know on Power...it's in "The Magic of the Right Forearm".

What if your right forearm is not your dominant arm? Mine is very passive do to this fact, so I'm not sure Tommy could help.

[mrodock]

There is a huge difference between working out as a bodybuilder and a powerlifter. Incidentally, a powerlifter (with low body fat percentage) may not look all that much different from a bodybuilder. However, the adaptations that have been made in their physiology are tremendously different. The powerlifter can accelerate quickly, whereas a bodybuilder can lift a lot of weight (most often slowly). Lifting weight slowly will not likely improve a person's clubhead speed much, if it all. If you want to improve speed, you need to re-educate your nervous system to move quickly. I would be extremely surprised if the speedchain isn't very effective in assisting this re-education and muscular adaptation. My brother is 6'1" 130 pounds and hits the ball over 300 yards on a solid shot. If he trained like a powerlifter for a period of time and ate properly he would start to look more like the guy pictured on the website and would probably be competitive on the national long drive circuit. My brother is blessed with a higher proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibers. A bodybuilder could potentially hit the ball a tremendous distance, but it would also be as a result of having a high proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibers in spite of an exercise program that would tend to decrease the number of fast-twitch muscle fibers.

One exercise physiologist broke down the type of demands that are placed on athletes in a variety of sports as according to: speed, speed strength, maximum strength, endurance, etc. Golf was 95% speed according to the author. So don't be surprised when your swing speed stays the same or decreases a bit after an extended program with weighted clubs.

Matt

[12 piece bucket]

There is a huge difference between working out as a bodybuilder and a powerlifter. Incidentally, a powerlifter (with low body fat percentage) may not look all that much different from a bodybuilder. However, the adaptations that have been made in their physiology are tremendously different. The powerlifter can accelerate quickly, whereas a bodybuilder can lift a lot of weight (most often slowly). Lifting weight slowly will not likely improve a person's clubhead speed much, if it all. If you want to improve speed, you need to re-educate your nervous system to move quickly. I would be extremely surprised if the speedchain isn't very effective in assisting this re-education and muscular adaptation. My brother is 6'1" 130 pounds and hits the ball over 300 yards on a solid shot. If he trained like a powerlifter for a period of time and ate properly he would start to look more like the guy pictured on the website and would probably be competitive on the national long drive circuit. My brother is blessed with a higher proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibers. A bodybuilder could potentially hit the ball a tremendous distance, but it would also be as a result of having a high proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibers in spite of an exercise program that would tend to decrease the number of fast-twitch muscle fibers.

One exercise physiologist broke down the type of demands that are placed on athletes in a variety of sports as according to: speed, speed strength, maximum strength, endurance, etc. Golf was 95% speed according to the author. So don't be surprised when your swing speed stays the same or decreases a bit after an extended program with weighted clubs.

Matt

I have heard that a strict regimine of Hostess King Dons and Twinkees would significantly improve your fast twitch musckles . . . as well as other activities not suitable to this here forum.

Put down your chains and your dumbellz . . . pick up a spoon and a fork.

working out is for metroz.

[bts]

Click on the video clip for an action demo http://speedchaininstructions.com/

No wonder it's fast, fast enough to whip a chain through the air, yet too fast to load and sustain a lagging golf club through impact.

[lagster]

What are some types of training, other than the Speed Chain, that do increase speed for golf?

Sprinter vs. Marathon Runner

[comdpa]

Sorry...this is a fad type of training aid...no way will this catch on. No way will you find me in my backyard swinging something like that...I'll scare the neighbors, the birds, all of mother nature, holy cow. This is not an indoors training aid for the average home owner either.

DG

DG,

Yoda was referring to the link that I put up.
www.athleticquickness.com

Will post more on this 'system' and how I adapt it for golf.

Justin

[comdpa]

No wonder it's fast, fast enough to whip a chain through the air, yet too fast to load and sustain a lagging golf club through impact.

bts,

Looking at the video, its most certainly NOT a pivot controlled hands, or at least your understanding of a PCH is wrong.

Just wondering what is the swing speed that your "sustain the lag through shoulder rotation" procedure produces.

Thanks