Monitoring #3 pressure point
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01-22-2006, 10:49 PM
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Monitoring #3 pressure point
How does one monitor #3 pressure point as a means of distance control? I never notice any difference in the way PP#3 feels, regardless of the length of the shot I am making, so I assume that I am doing something wrong, or simply don't know what it is that I'm supposed to monitor. I hope that this question makes sense. Thanks for your help.
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01-22-2006, 11:40 PM
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Sensing the Swinger's Lag Pressure Point
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Originally Posted by teach
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How does one monitor #3 pressure point as a means of distance control? I never notice any difference in the way PP#3 feels, regardless of the length of the shot I am making, so I assume that I am doing something wrong, or simply don't know what it is that I'm supposed to monitor. I hope that this question makes sense. Thanks for your help.
teach
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teach,
If you have Clubhead Feel, you have Clubhead Lag. That's because Clubhead Feel is Clubhead Lag.
Think of the Lag Pressure you feel during Start Down as a stone you are going to throw. How much pressure would you feel in your hand if you were going to throw a stone two feet? How about ten feet? How about 100 feet? In each case, there would be a definite difference in pressure, right? That is the same differentiating pressure you sense in a good Golf Stroke.
And remember, until well into the Downstroke in most Strokes, the Swinger's #3 Pressure Point is against the top of the Shaft and the first knuckle of the right hand forefinger, not against the back of the Shaft and against the 'meaty part' of the forefinger.
So, sense the pressure -- normal, light or heavy -- against the true #3 Pressure Point, and use it to control your distances.
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01-23-2006, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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teach,
If you have Clubhead Feel, you have Clubhead Lag. That's because Clubhead Feel is Clubhead Lag.
Think of the Lag Pressure you feel during Start Down as a stone you are going to throw. How much pressure would you feel in your hand if you were going to throw a stone two feet? How about ten feet? How about 100 feet? In each case, there would be a definite difference in pressure, right? That is the same differentiating pressure you sense in a good Golf Stroke.
And remember, until well into the Downstroke in most Strokes, the Swinger's #3 Pressure Point is against the top of the Shaft and the first knuckle of the right hand forefinger, not against the back of the Shaft and against the 'meaty part' of the forefinger.
So, sense the pressure -- normal, light or heavy -- against the true #3 Pressure Point, and use it to control your distances.
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For some of my advanced students, I will actually put a little ball of Play Dough® between the grip and where their #3 Pressure Point.
If they want to hit the ball further, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough ball a lot" and then do it. This is plus.
If they want to hit the ball with less gas, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough Ball a little" and then do it. This is minus.
Per 6-C-2-0: "Establish your "normal" procedure per 2-M-2, then its "plus" and "minus" variations in five increments."
This method of varying distance goes against what Pop Golf instruction teaches, which is to vary distance by altering swing length or swing speed.
However, those procedures do not give place to the 2nd imperative per 2-0-B-2, Clubhead Lag Pressure Point, which is the weight that Lynn is talking about when throwing a stone.
Bad throwers of a stone don't feel the weight of it.
Bad users of a golf club don't feel the weight of the club.
Clubhead feel is sweetspot feel for all #3 Pressure Point sensing functions per 2-F of the 7th edition.
Per 6-C-0: "Clubhead Lag (7-19) promotes even and steady acceleration, assuring DEPENDABLE control of distance."
There are lots more stuff regarding what this thread goes into and for the folks who are interested, definitely read:
3-F-6
6-C-2-0
6-C-2-D
6-F-1 and
9-2 -Zone 2 Club Control is the Power Zone and includes component 11, pressure point combination.
I have been extremely enriched by what Lynn has shared with me personally and on the forums about Clubhead Speed. Also do a search on Thrust, Acceleration and Speed by Lynn.
I cannot remember what the name of the thread or the post is. It be worth the hunt for it. It goes into greater depth as to what is being discussed here.
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01-23-2006, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
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For some of my advanced students, I will actually put a little ball of Play Dough® between the grip and where their #3 Pressure Point.
If they want to hit the ball further, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough ball a lot" and then do it. This is plus.
If they want to hit the ball with less gas, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough Ball a little" and then do it. This is minus.
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You have just won the 2006 MOST CREATIVE KOOLAID NUGGET AWARD with this idea! I don't see this one getting topped!
You are my golf hero!
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01-23-2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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You have just won the 2006 MOST CREATIVE KOOLAID NUGGET AWARD with this idea! I don't see this one getting topped!
You are my golf hero!
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Thanks for the extremely gracious words Colonel!
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01-23-2006, 11:07 AM
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Learning From The Singapore Slinger
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Originally Posted by comdpa
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I have been extremely enriched by what Lynn has shared with me personally and on the forums...
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The feeling is mutual, Justin. Thank you for your enthusiasm and your many contributions to our site.
Also...
Love your new avatar! Many lessons can be learned just studying it, beginning with the Flat Left Wrist, Clubhead Lag Pressure and Centered Head.
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01-23-2006, 03:17 PM
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Where I belong...
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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The feeling is mutual, Justin. Thank you for your enthusiasm and your many contributions to our site.
Also...
Love your new avatar! Many lessons can be learned just studying it, beginning with the Flat Left Wrist, Clubhead Lag Pressure and Centered Head.
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Lynn,
Thank you for the kind words. The gracious hospitality on this site stokes my enthusiasm giving rise to my contributions.
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01-23-2006, 10:27 PM
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Thank you !
Thank you for your responses. They are *very* helpful!
Yoda, the precision of your reply greatly furthered my understanding of exactly where and how I should feel the pressure. This will make a huge difference in my practice, and eventually in my play.
Comdpa, I absolutely love your idea with the play dough. I will buy some tomorrow. This is a truly brilliant "training aid." For novices such as myself, such advice is priceless. The rest of your post was also most helpful
Gentlemen, you have enlightened me, (and others, no doubt), and for that I am very grateful. Thank you.
teach
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01-23-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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And remember, until well into the Downstroke in most Strokes, the Swinger's #3 Pressure Point is against the top of the Shaft and the first knuckle of the right hand forefinger, not against the back of the Shaft and against the 'meaty part' of the forefinger.
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Yoda,
This might be a bit obtuse, but from the quote above, "top of the shaft" would be defined from the alignments at address. And at the top of the swing would actually be facing down into the right knuckle?
(If this is the case, it really defogs the "rotating pp#3" idea)
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01-24-2006, 12:34 AM
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Lifting the Fog from the Rotating Lag Pressure Point
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Originally Posted by rchang72
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Yoda,
This might be a bit obtuse, but from the quote above, "top of the shaft" would be defined from the alignments at address. And at the top of the swing would actually be facing down into the right knuckle?
(If this is the case, it really defogs the "rotating pp#3" idea)
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Rchang,
As Homer Kelley would say: "Kee-rect!" The thumb and forefinger contact points with the Shaft do not change. However, due to the Swinger's Start Up Swivel, the Top of the Shaft Loads against the first knuckle.
For the Hitter, there has been no Start Up Swivel. Hence, the Loading remains on the Aft side of the Shaft and against the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.
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