Aligning the Clubface

[Bumpy]

This post is problematic for me.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ght=separation

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The True Swinger allows Centrifugal Force to align for Impact all three Functions of the Club, i.e., the Clubhead, the Clubshaft and the Clubface.

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Yoda

Something I am missing in the physics, club, machine or in my in interpretation. Suspect this aligning is CF reacting to something I have not accounted for. Gravity? Shaft is a snake?

Bumpy

[O.B.Left]

Bumpy consider the difference between the farmers flail and the golfers flail .....

[Bumpy]

Bumpy consider the difference between the farmers flail and the golfers flail .....

The swivel.

[O.B.Left]

The swivel.

In regard to face manipulation only (leaving aside clubhead and shaft manipulation). The farmers flail has the two pieces of wood attached by a string like piece of leather . If the golf shaft were made of string no manipulation of the face would be possible right. Now consider the golfers hands, the connection between the handle and the arms, as being string like.

[Bumpy]

Until Lynn gets back on line.

The golfer’s Flail is the Left Arm and the Club, the Primary Lever that applies force on the ball. Centrifugal Acceleration and Momentum of the Throw-Out releases accumulator#2 to produce its In line Condition. That is what a flail does- it goes from out-of line to In Line by a whipping CF action. Farmers trashed wheat with two sticks and a leather strap. A golfer’s Flail is the left arm and club with the left wrist being the leather strap. Many pics of Google of flails.
Since CF produces the In-Line to sqaure the clubface, I will say it is for Swinger's. A hitter uses a driving right arm to release acc2.

Now the Law of the Flai- 2-K gets you to an Inline sqaure clubface. Acc#3rhythm with an Hinge motion is needed to complete the shot.

I do not see how 2-k gets to a square clubface for a true swinger.

Bumpy

[HungryBear]

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I do not see how 2-k gets to a square clubface for a true swinger.

Bumpy

Watch BD review release with his grandson at about 1:00 to 1:10 of this clip.

HB

[Mike O]

Watch BD review release with his grandson at about 1:00 to 1:10 of this clip.

HB

It should be noted that Ben Doyle's use of the term "Aiming Point" has no relation to the Aiming Point concept in the Golfing Machine. Not that his point potentially doesn't have relevance or practical implications or useage. The problem arises for people learning the book, seeing the "1st" authorized instructor - using a term from the book in a completely different way and context than the one described in the book. Personally I'd be much more careful in using the terms - if I knew that you read a instructional book on how to drive a car I wouldn't tell you to put the key in the ignition if I meant put the key in the trunk lock to open the trunk.

[HungryBear]

It should be noted that Ben Doyle's use of the term "Aiming Point" has no relation to the Aiming Point concept in the Golfing Machine. Not that his point potentially doesn't have relevance or practical implications or useage. The problem arises for people learning the book, seeing the "1st" authorized instructor - using a term from the book in a completely different way and context than the one described in the book. Personally I'd be much more careful in using the terms - if I knew that you read a instructional book on how to drive a car I wouldn't tell you to put the key in the ignition if I meant put the key in the trunk lock to open the trunk.

That is why I restricted use of BD to a time frame 1 to 1:10 (edit that to 1:02 to 1:08.5). That is the point in release where cf uses the golfers flail to get #2 then #3 going.

HB

[Bumpy]

Watch BD review release with his grandson at about 1:00 to 1:10 of this clip.

HB

Words that were clear to me: "inside quadrant", "hip", he might have said "align".

Bumpy

[Mike O]

This post is problematic for me.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ght=separation

..............

The True Swinger allows Centrifugal Force to align for Impact all three Functions of the Club, i.e., the Clubhead, the Clubshaft and the Clubface.

..............

Yoda

Something I am missing in the physics, club, machine or in my in interpretation. Suspect this aligning is CF reacting to something I have not accounted for. Gravity? Shaft is a snake?

Bumpy

Easy answer - however not one that is quickly answered. Possibly the information below will help you - since I'm on perma hold with Cox Cable this morning.

Let's talk in terms of the "pure" "simple" theory - "outside" of any particular practical golfing example - just to understand the basic principle at play.

First let's clarify the concept "CF aligning". The broader principle is that it could be any straight line force through the longitudinal center of mass of the golf club. So similar to just a golf club swinging in a circle with the pull straight out through the longitudinal center of mass i.e. sweetspot. Let's look at an example that you can see. Take a sand wedge and a 5 iron and hold each lightly at the grip end with thumb and index finger - shaft hanging down towards the ground - that straight line force - gravity in this situation- pulls through the center of mass and aligns each club. The sand wedge leading edge is more closed than the five iron because of the construction of the clubface is different (wider)i.e. more mass behind the leading edge. Likewise, rotating these clubs in a circle would automatically align their club faces - differently but consistently. So you could rely on that principle to consistently align your clubface.

If there wasn't other issues at play as in a human swinging a golf club - for instance if you just had a golf club swinging around a centered rotating pole - attached by a rope say and moving fast enough where the shaft was parallel to the ground - then based on the way they construct golf clubs - you would always have the face closed to the motion of the clubhead at any time and therefore if hitting a ball - you would always produce a draw shot.

This issue of CF aligning the clubface relates to Homer's "Hookface" definition.