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Old 05-07-2005, 12:25 PM
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Inside Aft of the ball
Only good things happen when you strive to hit the inside rear of the golf ball.

1- The mere intention of striking the inside aft of the ball prevents any and all over the top motion. You cannot hit the inside rear aft of the ball with the clubhead coming from the outside in. It is far better then the Inside Approach training aid because the intention and execution of striking said inside aft adds to the education of your hands, elbow position and pivot. With that training aid you can merely strike the back of the ball with a low sweeping motion which contains none of the qualities as the inside rear.
2- Striving to hit the inside of the ball puts the clubface in proper position to produce a Horizontal hinge action or an Angled hinge motion. Slightly opened clubface in each case. HH closing like a door and AH with its no release driving to “Right Field.”
3- Striking the inside rear of the ball can only be accomplished by keeping your Flying wedges intact and on plane, driving them to its aiming point to maintain clubhead lag into impact. Keeping the wedges intact of course maintains a bent right wrist and a flat left wrist. Staying on a straight line plane, maintaining lag and a flat left wrist adds up to the Three Essentials. Not too shabby for a simply intentional of where to strike the ball.

I read once that Ben Doyle would teach extensor action he had just five minutes with a student. I’m sure Homer and Lynn would opt for explaining the magic of the right forearm tracing. I know Lynn would sketch the geometry of the circle on something too. LOL. No argument from me- all are machine concepts found nowhere else in golf instruction and they are better instructors then I’d ever be.
But for me, I’d tell a friend to figure out how to hit the inside rear of the golf ball with the clubface and call me in the morning to see how he did.

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Old 05-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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I am with you 6bmike, inside aft of the ball, once a student realises that is where he is supposed to be heading, only good things happen.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: Inside Aft of the ball
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But for me, I’d tell a friend to figure out how to hit the inside rear of the golf ball with the clubface and call me in the morning to see how he did.

Just MHO
What if your friend tells you the next day, "I'm slicing it like never before! I wanted to close the clubface to stop this, but that means I won't be hitting the inside quadrant. What should I do Mike?"
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:16 PM
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Its perfectly possible to hit the inside aft quadrant of the ball with a clubface square, or closed, to the clubhead line of travel. The result, however would not be a slice.

Fix the open clubface and continue to swing into the inside aft quadrant.
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:51 PM
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Its perfectly possible to hit the inside aft quadrant of the ball with a clubface square, or closed, to the clubhead line of travel. The result, however would not be a slice.

Fix the open clubface and continue to swing into the inside aft quadrant.
Can someone please explain to me how it is possible to hit the inside aft quadrandt at impact with a closed clubface. I tried doing it with a real ball and club in slow motion and it seemed to be impossible (even when swinging from the inside). I must be missing something here...help me!
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:08 PM
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Re: Inside Aft of the ball
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But for me, I’d tell a friend to figure out how to hit the inside rear of the golf ball with the clubface and call me in the morning to see how he did.

Just MHO
What if your friend tells you the next day, "I'm slicing it like never before! I wanted to close the clubface to stop this, but that means I won't be hitting the inside quadrant. What should I do Mike?"
Depends, teach hinge actions. Improve the pivot, perhaps he or she is quitting. I'd check elbow position at impact, too.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:16 PM
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"Can someone please explain to me how it is possible to hit the inside aft quadrandt at impact with a closed clubface. I tried doing it with a real ball and club in slow motion and it seemed to be impossible (even when swinging from the inside). I must be missing something here...help me!"

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Well, I don't think it's that hard and I'm fairly new to TGM. Yoda has a post somewhere related to talking with a pro that on the longer irons he closes the face incresingly. We're not talking a lot here. I've been trying it and it works. I accidently did it on a shorter iron and it hooked on my approach to the green. So on the longer irons, maybe 4, 5, I just turn the face a little at impact position. So, if you're hitting the inside aft, using angled hinging, it should stay straight with maybe a slight draw.

Sometimes one thinks one is hitting the inside aft and one is not. It's easy for the over the top to sneak in which is why it is important to stay on plane.

Hope this helps . . .

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Old 05-08-2005, 04:47 PM
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Assuming the ball is positioned before the clubface reaches low point and assuming an On Plane Swing :

a) if the clubface is square at Low Point, the clubface will be sightly open at Impact and you will strike the inside aft quadrant;

b) if the clubface is very slightly closed at Low Point, it will still strike the ball on the inside aft quadrant;

c) if the face is closed quite a lot at Low Point, the clubface will not strike the inside aft quadrant [and you will get a great big pull!].
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But the crucial point is that at Impact (not Low Point or Separation), the clubface must be open to strike the ball on the inside-aft quadrant. Even if the clubface is very slightly closed at Impact, it won't contact the ball on the inside-aft quadrant.
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But the crucial point is that at Impact (not Low Point or Separation), the clubface must be open to strike the ball on the inside-aft quadrant. Even if the clubface is very slightly closed at Impact, it won't contact the ball on the inside-aft quadrant.
At Impact the sweetspot should travel through the inside aft quadrant which may or may not be the initial contact point dependant on the clubface orientation.... Quite simple really.....
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Old 05-08-2005, 07:03 PM
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i think the idea is to always be looking at that inside aft quadrant because if your looking at the back of the ball your more likely to come over the top or have clubhead throwaway. also my two favorite players both swung at the inside aft quadrant of the ball, hogan describes his downswing plane of glass as turning to the right of the target thus he was then swinging at the iAQ. and trevino always talked about pushing it to the right on his downswing. coicindence that these may have been the two best ball strikers ever. going at the inside aft quadrant is my key thought and has helped me to swing easy and hit big because of less clubhead throwaway.
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