If Mac's clubhead is on the yellow line, then how come you can see the whole back of his left hand in that shot? Wouldn't that point the club back under the plane?
The question isn't if Mac's Clubhead is on the yellow line...The facts are it is on the yellow line....These are the purest alignments when both flying wedges are aligned to the Plane Angle at this point....
How do I know the picture is accurate?...it is a still from my VHS copy and is filed on my V1 Digital Coaching System.....A tripod was used and it was placed properly by the subject being filmed...
Unfortunately ...I watched the LCG trace all the way down to this point.....I wouldn't ever deliberately choose a picture that wouldn't represent what I was trying to convey...I know I'm not the smartest tool in the toolbox...but I ain't that stooooooopid!!!
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So please do not take any of the following as personal...my writing style does take on a hint of sarcasm...but not directly a personal attack...Are we okay with that?
Hell yeah I'm okay with that. I learn a little something from 90% of your posts.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #1 is Matt Kutchar...NOT...Nick Price....His club is "Rolled - Out" off plane by a premature Roll of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge thus changing the hand to plane relationship....hope he angle hinges this one...
I saw the clubface position and I immediately thought that it just had to be Nick Price. I've got some video from '93 of Nicky P. in very much the same position...and I couldn't believe back then what I was seeing.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #2 is Ted Tryba....His club is outside his hand path due to two much #2 accumulator(Doulble Action) with a 10-2-D GRIP TYPE...THIS IS OKAY FOR PLAYING CUT SHOTS WITH ANGLED HINGING...
I just learned another REASON why someone can be off plane instead of just recognizing that the clubshaft IS off plane. I understand what you are saying here.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #3 is Big Mac...You're Right....but that is NOT the Clubhead near his right leg...it is a shadow ...for the facts are that Mac is the only player with the right elbow, right forearm, #3 Pressure Point , and the LCG on the plane angle....The reason you cannot see the clubhead ...It's covering his right hand!!! Sorry for the picture quality...
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #4 is Tiger Woods....At the 1999 US Open in Pinehurst...2 Stations down from me and Clearwater...Unfortunatley...Haney was working with O'Meara who BTW was the "dude between Clearwater and Tiger....Butchie was behind El Tigre....Obviously Tiger knew Hank....But Butchie was his MAN on that day!!!
If Butchie was his man that day, I guess he was just a "little stuck" on that swing.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #5 is Fred Couples...I agree from a 15-20 degree open stanceline about the straight line delivery...Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact-Yes....On-Plane?
Have you seen the swing sequence in Freddy's book "Total Shotmaking", taken back when Freddy was #1 in the world? I'll try to scan it and post it this week. His downswing plane and flying wedges are textbook TGM.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #7 is VJ....What is so Awesome? Other than the fact he's #2 in the world and won a whole lot of tournaments in the past few years...If he wasn't #2 in the world and didn't practice more than anyone else....Who really would notice? Besides I think what makes VJ awesome is he's strengthned his whole game....
I saw your post about Vijay's "Mess" and I agreed with most of your analysis. However, on this swing, is he not closer to the "right elbow, right forearm, #3 Pressure Point , and the LCG on the plane angle" than any of the other golfers in this post?.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #8 is Bob Tway....Define perfectly on-plane? Lost a little bit of waist bend and knee bend here?
Well, the club is parallel to the ground and parallel to the target line. The toe is pointing straight up in the air. Okay, so he might be a hair under the yellow line, which explains his preference for repeating a drawing ball flight.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #9 is Joey Sindelar....Yes...I agree definitely a 15-Handicappers swing....But he'd probably ask us sarcastically "How many PGA TOUR Events have we won with our swings?"
A lot of ways to get it done. He does cut most of his shots though, doesn't he? He's got to hit fades from that position.
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Golfer #10 is Tom Watson......It'a wonder he won 8 majors. What defined Watson...isn't technique...It's all the intangible of a True Champion..and a HOT putter for a while!!!!!
I've always admired his golf swing even though it is not the most mechanically efficient action. I love Watson's upbeat, one-two tempo and his rhythm. I enjoy watching him hit bunker shots - his rhythm doesn't change and he gets the best "thump" in the greenside bunkers. He picks it clean with the long irons and digs out a nice pork chop with the short irons. I love how he fully turns the hips on the backswing - easy on the back. His champions tour career should last until he hits 60+. His five-under-par 65 in the first round of the 2003 Open at Olympia Fields with Bruce Edwards on the bag was special.
Lines are not perfect due to the lack of precision provided by my Powerpoint Tools...Sorry....I used the Elbow Plane as the reference point ...Forgive me of my lack of acknowledgment of the other plane angles in advance?
Let's begin a discussion on the relatioship of the entire right forearm flying wedge being aligned on-plane vs. on a different plane or off-plane ........including the right elbow....the right forearm, the #3 Pressure Point, the LCG....etc....
Skywalker~
Continuing with someone's question about what we are to learn from the frames posted.
It would help me if I understood the conditions under which the advanced player would benefit from having the right forearm on the Sweetspot Plane at this stage in the downstroke. Or, was that your intent? My thinking from 5-0 and various RFFW discussions is that only during the Release Interval is it beneficial. That is not to say that the RFFW should not be retained.
JS and TW would seem to be opposites but in the frames posted they represent a unique group.
Continuing with someone's question about what we are to learn from the frames posted.
It would help me if I understood the conditions under which the advanced player would benefit from having the right forearm on the Sweetspot Plane at this stage in the downstroke. Or, was that your intent? My thinking from 5-0 and various RFFW discussions is that only during the Release Interval is it beneficial. That is not to say that the RFFW should not be retained.
JS and TW would seem to be opposites but in the frames posted they represent a unique group.
DRW
The intent....is to show a sample of a small spectrum of variations ........Each picture has been carefully selected using a goniometer to determine the degrees of difference....For the Simpleton's out there slight , moderate ec\xcessive are substitutes for 10,20,30 degrees fro exapmle....For the Techy...you need the degrees to quatnitfy your qualitative analysis...
There are samenesses and differences in each photo...learning takes place when one can look at the samenesses and differences noticng there relationships ...but yet there individuality...It is from their individuality...that reveals the patterns of the whole picture...but also distinguishes the details of each individual picture...
Read 1-J
So if you're a "tree" person...start looking at the forest and appreciate its massive beauty....
If you're a "forest" person..start lookin at the individual trees and appreciate each one for themselves...
Then you got it!!!!
Once you know you know...then forget about it!
- Homer Kelley/Tom Tomascello
Last edited by annikan skywalker : 11-21-2005 at 10:58 PM.
The more of these photos I see, real world golfers who are far better than me on their bad days, the less I feel the need to worry about obtaining precise, uncompensated alignments... am I expelled?
The more of these photos I see, real world golfers who are far better than me on their bad days, the less I feel the need to worry about obtaining precise, uncompensated alignments... am I expelled?
If you like to learn..you'll never get expelled...That's why they invented extra credit.....Learn the alignments...Do your homework.....show up for class....no matter how long it takes...then learn some variations....then customize....
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