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Old 12-03-2005, 03:53 PM
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There is a lot of information relating to increasing distance for a swinger but at least for me I don't feel there is much to work with for hitting. Driving the club with the right arm and straight elbow by itself does not seem enough. The yellow book hints that the pivot will help the speed. Is this mainly the lower body pivot or upper body? What are the things that help. When I look at Ted Fort swing from the side taken from his hitting video at the range ( still waiting for the official side view dartfish) I see a hit with a lot of extensor action and tremendous drive with his right side especially his legs. Are these the things that are helping his distance? Any ideas would be appreciated since we do not have things like centrifugal force to work for us and snap action etc.

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Old 12-03-2005, 11:54 PM
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Probably just a typo in your post, but you don't want a straight right elbow at Impact. If yours is straight, you're losing distance.

The key to distance for the Hitter is Acceleration. You must be trying to accelerate that club through the release and impact interval. If you've reached top speed before release, you won't hit it very far. Most mistakes are made with (1) taking the backstroke too far back; and (2) trying to immediately apply the right tricep from the top.

Here are a few thoughts for you: (1) the shorter your swing, the more likely you will be accelerating through release and impact interval; (2)slooow start down -- it is almost impossible to actually be going too slow, no matter what your brain is telling you; (3) let your pivot/shoulder motion change the direction of quiet hands and club, bringing them down to the release point before you drive out with right tricep power and (4) don't just drive out at the ball -- keep driving through so you get some #3 accumulator.

The thing you need to do is get your mind out of your right tricep and into your right forearm....see section 7-3 (Magic of the Right Forearm). Triceps don't trigger Triceps...Right Forearm triggers the Right Triceps.


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Old 12-04-2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
The thing you need to do is get your mind out of your right tricep and into your right forearm....see section 7-3 (Magic of the Right Forearm). Triceps don't trigger Triceps...Right Forearm triggers the Right Triceps.


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As for the forearm are you saying the movement of the right forearm will trigger the tricep release which then uncocks the right elbow? Even if that is the case does that improve distance by delaying that action?

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Old 12-04-2005, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rwh
Probably just a typo in your post, but you don't want a straight right elbow at Impact. If yours is straight, you're losing distance.

The key to distance for the Hitter is Acceleration. You must be trying to accelerate that club through the release and impact interval. If you've reached top speed before release, you won't hit it very far. Most mistakes are made with (1) taking the backstroke too far back; and (2) trying to immediately apply the right tricep from the top.

Here are a few thoughts for you: (1) the shorter your swing, the more likely you will be accelerating through release and impact interval; (2)slooow start down -- it is almost impossible to actually be going too slow, no matter what your brain is telling you; (3) let your pivot/shoulder motion change the direction of quiet hands and club, bringing them down to the release point before you drive out with right tricep power and (4) don't just drive out at the ball -- keep driving through so you get some #3 accumulator.
The straight elbow was a typo. As far as bringing hands down to the release point are we talking when the club shaft is approximatelly parallel to the ground?

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Old 12-06-2005, 11:10 PM
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There is a lot of information relating to increasing distance for a swinger but at least for me I don't feel there is much to work with for hitting. Driving the club with the right arm and straight elbow by itself does not seem enough. The yellow book hints that the pivot will help the speed. Is this mainly the lower body pivot or upper body? What are the things that help. When I look at Ted Fort swing from the side taken from his hitting video at the range ( still waiting for the official side view dartfish) I see a hit with a lot of extensor action and tremendous drive with his right side especially his legs. Are these the things that are helping his distance? Any ideas would be appreciated since we do not have things like centrifugal force to work for us and snap action etc.

Dave
Per 6-B-1-A...

Primarily, I consider myself a swinger with the driver but with all other clubs, I hit. I hit my 9 iron, 160yards carry.

It was not like this all the time, but thanks to the teachings of Lynn and Ted here...things have transformed.

How I do it is like this.

1. Setup with with pre-turned right hip.

2. I take it up with a right forearm takeaway to the TOP, while keeping the clubface looking at the ball all the way to ensure a proper angled hinge at the top.

3. Next, from the TOP, there is an almost imperceptible crossline hip slide while my shoulder moves down the plane. Note that at this point, there is no rotation whatsoever and this is SO VERY IMPORTANT with hitting. You want to avoid any CF.

4. When everything is nice and settled DOWN, I then aim my RIGHT PALM at the inside aft quadrant of the ball and give it maximum juice with the right triceps. Even at this juncture, there is to be a no rotation feel.

5. If you have performed number 3 correctly, you will have done 6-B-1-A. You can be more adventurous and add 6-B-1-C when you have mastered this.

**BEWARE** Mastery of hitting will mean that you hit longer and straighter and that the shafts you are currently using will become too soft for the pattern at hand. I use X-100s and they feel like a limp washrag.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:26 PM
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3. Next, from the TOP, there is an almost imperceptible crossline hip slide while my shoulder moves down the plane. Note that at this point, there is no rotation whatsoever and this is SO VERY IMPORTANT with hitting. You want to avoid any CF.

Hi, Comdpa:

Could you please elaborate on your third point? Do you consciously move your trail shoulder down plane,or does it happen automatically because of the hip slide? I do not know what you mean by no rotation. Do you refer to pivot?

thanks

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Old 12-07-2005, 11:28 PM
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To get more distance while being a hitter the short answer:

1) become stronger
2) thrust harder

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If you've mastered the 3 barrel hit, add some pivot for a 4 barrel hit. I know like it sounds "too simple" but the hitting pattern is rather simple. The stronger your right tricep/forearm/bicep/shoulder/back etc are, the more "umph" you can put into the ball.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:31 PM
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3. Next, from the TOP, there is an almost imperceptible crossline hip slide while my shoulder moves down the plane. Note that at this point, there is no rotation whatsoever and this is SO VERY IMPORTANT with hitting. You want to avoid any CF.

Hi, Comdpa:

Could you please elaborate on your third point? Do you consciously move your trail shoulder down plane,or does it happen automatically because of the hip slide? I do not know what you mean by no rotation. Do you refer to pivot?

thanks

Channelback
Consciously, else you will roundhouse and lose so much power it isnt even funny.

Yes, pivot rotation. It should feel like no rotation, but there will be.
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