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Old 01-03-2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
You can start off at Roman Numeral X.
It would simplify things so much if new comers to the book started off here.

Mr Kelly said in 1-E: "The only real short cuts are more and more know-how."

To answer your question, the fastest way to be consistent is to obtain more and more know-how.

It is only when you know what you have to do, can you practise what you need to practise so that when the time comes for you to do what you have to do, you can do what needs to be done.
I started at X. Read the suggested pattern in two days. Have reread the book several times. I have a lot of know how in my mind but like I said I'm in "incubating" stage, I have mind memory but no muscle memory yet. Kind of hard to break old habits, you know?
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Old 01-03-2006, 12:50 PM
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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
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I started at X. Read the suggested pattern in two days. Have reread the book several times. I have a lot of know how in my mind but like I said I'm in "incubating" stage, I have mind memory but no muscle memory yet. Kind of hard to break old habits, you know?
Yes, I get you loud and clear.

I think I started out in TGM in one of the "best" ways one could have.

I had a dislocated left shoulder from playing rugby which reduced me to just reading the book and doing drills utilising my hands only.

With no ball, most people have good swings. Put a ball in front of them, you will have transformed their swings from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde.

In 3-F-4, Mr Kelly outlined a practice procedure that is helpful when adhered to.

Indoor range - Mechanics
Outdoor range - Ball Flight

Said the Master of the indoor range..."There, the hypnotic effect of distance, line and hazard drawing attention away from the Hands and inducing a compulsion to Steer the ball, can be analyzed and procedures adopted for correction."

Works for me...
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Old 01-03-2006, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
Yes, I get you loud and clear.

I think I started out in TGM in one of the "best" ways one could have.

I had a dislocated left shoulder from playing rugby which reduced me to just reading the book and doing drills utilising my hands only.

With no ball, most people have good swings. Put a ball in front of them, you will have transformed their swings from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde.

In 3-F-4, Mr Kelly outlined a practice procedure that is helpful when adhered to.

Indoor range - Mechanics
Outdoor range - Ball Flight

Said the Master of the indoor range..."There, the hypnotic effect of distance, line and hazard drawing attention away from the Hands and inducing a compulsion to Steer the ball, can be analyzed and procedures adopted for correction."

Works for me...

Very cool section, thanks. I've got a net outside in the yard and have worked my way up from chipping, pitching and punch shots. But when I try to put it all together for a full swing, I lose that sound of compression or either start flipping again.
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:57 AM
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Food for thought
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"Make contact on the right spot

One of the biggest misconceptions in shotmaking is that to hit a draw, you need to make contact on the inside-back portion of the ball (if you divided the ball into quarters, the quadrant closest to your right foot). This simply is not true. You need to hit the outside-back part of the ball. The inside-back quadrant actually is the right spot for a fade. To hit a draw, the leading edge has to be pointing down and to the left of the target when the clubface contacts the ball (exaggerated image, above right). For a fade, it has to point up and to the right. "

link:http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...reaking80.html

I am new to TGM!
In the 1999 Championship at Medinah Country Club Tiger Woods came to the last hole with a one stroke lead over Sergio Garcia. The hole demanded a right-to-left ball flight. Listen to how he achieves it.

“I teed my ball and committed myself to the right-to-left ball flight. I took a deep breath, relaxed and muttered to myself. “Let’s aim for the inside of the ball and turn this bad boy over.” I made a full turn and swung aggressively, aiming for the inside quadrant of the ball and keeping my head well to the right so I would release the club properly.
I’ve hit better tee shots, but I can’t remember when. I just smoked it, the ball hooking about five yards and stopping in a perfect spot smack in the middle of the fairway.”


Maybe he doesn’t read Golf Digest.
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:20 AM
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How To Hook The Ball
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“I teed my ball and committed myself to the right-to-left ball flight. I took a deep breath, relaxed and muttered to myself. “Let’s aim for the inside of the ball and turn this bad boy over.” I made a full turn and swung aggressively, aiming for the inside quadrant of the ball and keeping my head well to the right so I would release the club properly.
I’ve hit better tee shots, but I can’t remember when. I just smoked it, the ball hooking about five yards and stopping in a perfect spot smack in the middle of the fairway.”

Clubhead Line of Flight: Inside Out Plane Line passing through Inside Aft quadrant of the Ball per 10-5-E.

Closed Clubface Contact point: Outside aft quadrant per Sketch 2-B.

Result: A 'glancing blow' (2-D-0) that produces a "five-yard draw."
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:41 AM
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Contant 'middle' -- Straight Ball Flight.

Visual inside-aft is the middle!
Close but not quite - It really is the inside aft quadrant that initially gets struck for a straight shot and nothing visual about it. At the impact point/initial contact point with the ball, the ball deforms and stays on the face as the clubface is closing during the 'impact interval', by the time it seperates, this original contact point becomes square to the line of flight.

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Old 01-05-2006, 12:16 AM
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I am waiting for my yellow book
Thanks for all of your replies. I made an order of the yellow book and the expolsive golf dvd last night! Just can't wait anymore.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:46 PM
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Thanks for all of your replies. I made an order of the yellow book and the expolsive golf dvd last night! Just can't wait anymore.
Congratulations!! Don't let the book overwhelm you. It looks daunting at first but if you read it in the order prescribed in the preface on pg. X, it gets more and more understandable.

Just don't take it personally when you are no longer able to communicate with your golfing buddies because you are speaking a different language - flying wedges, throwawy, magic right forearm, etc.

You know to tone it down to their level when someone asks you what grip you're using and instead of saying overlap, interlock or 10 finger. You reply "strong single action." lol
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
Close but not quite - It really is the inside aft quadrant that initially gets struck for a straight shot and nothing visual about it.
2-C-1 #3, Impact Point is basically on the Center Line.
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:30 AM
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So, please correct me if i am wrong?
I am picking up the book with reference to vid of the Gallery.

So, it is correct to draw (fade) a ball in my understanding?

1. Hold the club with square club face and aim the inside (outside)quadrant of the ball
2. Whole Body aim to the right (left) of target line
3. Inside-out (outside-in)swing path in relation to target line (but remain inside-square-inside swing path in relation to base line)
4. 1-2 degree open clubface at impact and square at separation.
5. Finish with swivel (with angle hinge)

Finally, in order to hit it straight, it that we just manage the base line and plane line on the same line, impact with 1-2 degree open clubface at the aft part of the ball?

Sorry for my poor writing. I will try to adopt TMG's terms in next post.
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