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Old 02-20-2006, 01:07 PM
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This obviously shortens the Swing Radius considerably because it now only extends from the Clubhead to the Left Wrist rather than to the Left Shoulder. It moves Low Point forward -- rather than being opposite the Left Shoulder, it is now opposite the Left Wrist.

But surely a Long Drive Champion such as David Molbey wouldn't be using an inferior procedure like this. He has one of the slowest clubhead speeds in the business, yet he is one of the best. Could this be the reason why?

How can TGM explain this?

Lets say he does this because he wants to hit down on the ball. But what's the advantage of this procedure compared with the standard one where you just place the ball behind the Left Shoulder without changing Low Point location?

I have more comments later. I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.
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This is certainly one place where TGM is the only place to be, to have this explained!

Slower clubhead speed? KE=1/2M x V squared Especially with a guy the size and strength of this guy, and the athletic motion (lag) that he makes.

Lowpoint? His clubhead is at lowpoint, opposite the left shoulder- and now he's going to be hitting slightly upward on the ball. If the clubhead goes lower- looks like he'll pop it up to me.

Angular Acceleration? Until he get's to both arms straight- he's going to have Angular Acceleration.

Most the time someone's hitting up on the ball- they have allowed the left wrist to bend- but not in this situation.
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Old 02-20-2006, 03:56 PM
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Yellow Line:
where Low Point would be if it was opposite Left Shoulder.
Red Line: Impact Line
Blue Lines: Power Package and Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club)
Grey Triangle: Base of neck in relation to feet.
Green Line: Axis Tilt

The only way that Clubhead will be going up from there is if the Clubshaft doesn't get any more in line with the Left Arm. Which is extremely unlikely.
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:28 PM
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Tong,
This is certainly one place where TGM is the only place to be, to have this explained!

Slower clubhead speed? KE=1/2M x V squared Especially with a guy the size and strength of this guy, and the athletic motion (lag) that he makes.

Lowpoint? His clubhead is at lowpoint, opposite the left shoulder- and now he's going to be hitting slightly upward on the ball. If the clubhead goes lower- looks like he'll pop it up to me.

Angular Acceleration? Until he get's to both arms straight- he's going to have Angular Acceleration.

Most the time someone's hitting up on the ball- they have allowed the left wrist to bend- but not in this situation.
Don't it look like the man himself (Homer Kelley) in Mike O's avatar is pretty much in the same Impact/Fix position as this dude?

Or am I missing something? Ok don't answer that . . .



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Hi tongzilla,

My eyes are very uneducated but aren't we assuming here that his head remains in the same place. It looks to me like his head is slightly behind centre, might his head be moving up and backwards to allow him room to hit the ball?
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Don't it look like the man himself (Homer Kelley) in Mike O's avatar is pretty much in the same Impact/Fix position as this dude?

Or am I missing something? Ok don't answer that . . .
Remember we are looking face on at 'this dude', whereas the 'man himself' in Mike's avatar is viewed from an angle. Also, I really doubt the ball was in front of Homer's Left Shoulder at Impact, unlike this dude, where the ball is at least two inches after the Left Shoulder (see the lines I've drawn).
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:37 PM
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Hi tongzilla,

My eyes are very uneducated but aren't we assuming here that his head remains in the same place. It looks to me like his head is slightly behind centre, might his head be moving up and backwards to allow him room to hit the ball?
Whether the Head remains in the same place really isn't relevant in this discussion, since we are not talking about the Pivot Center Tripod, etc. I've drawn the 'Tripod' for illustrative purposes only, not to substantiate my argument.
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Remember we are looking face on at 'this dude', whereas the 'man himself' in Mike's avatar is viewed from an angle. Also, I really doubt the ball was in front of Homer's Left Shoulder at Impact, unlike this dude, where the ball is at least two inches after the Left Shoulder (see the lines I've drawn).
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Pics aren't too clear, but to me, all of them except Mr Trevino, have the ball behind the Left Shoulder at Impact.
And all of them have the Clubhead descending during Impact (no exceptions).
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Pics aren't too clear, but to me, all of them except Mr Trevino, have the ball behind the Left Shoulder at Impact.
And all of them have the Clubhead descending during Impact (no exceptions).
Buck played with an open stance so we could have a little camera issue there. But Hogan's shaft and Left Arm don't look In-Line to me. And Mr. K for sure hasn't reached In-Line. And your dude isn't at impact yet. Per Mr. K the Lever Assembly is always only inches away from Full-Extension . . .or something like that.

What were we fightin' about again? This is like me and what's her name at home. I get blistered and I can't remember what I done.

Tell me what your problem is sweetie . . . sorry I mean Tongzilla.
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