Congratulations on the new site. We are all very eagerly awaiting the evolution of your site. I wish you the best of luck with the new venture. I know we in the golf world will all benefit from it.
My question is about the position of the left thumb on the grip when hitting. I seem to have a difficult time comfortably placing the thumb on the aft side of the shaft. When I do this and relax my forearms the clubface is very closed. Am I doing something wrong or can I use a more neutral left hand possition with my thumb right of center? What are the potential pitfalls?
Congratulations on the new site. We are all very eagerly awaiting the evolution of your site. I wish you the best of luck with the new venture. I know we in the golf world will all benefit from it.
My question is about the position of the left thumb on the grip when hitting. I seem to have a difficult time comfortably placing the thumb on the aft side of the shaft. When I do this and relax my forearms the clubface is very closed. Am I doing something wrong or can I use a more neutral left hand possition with my thumb right of center? What are the potential pitfalls?
Thanks,
Terry (OHgolfer)
Thanks for your 'well wishes,' Terry. We're committed to the best golf instruction on the web. Watch us make it happen! And please...help us along the way with your constructive comments and suggestions. My PM key is fully functional and my Inbox awaits! As does the Inbox of our other Site Admin folk: Bagger Lance and Trigolt. We don't kill 'messengers' around here: We welcome them!
Regarding your question, the Aft Thumb Location (behind the Shaft) is independent of both the Left Wrist Condition and the Clubface Alignment. With your Left Wrist in the preferred Vertical Condition (neither Turned nor Rolled) at Impact Fix, the Clubface can then be aligned Square, Open or Shut (depending on the selected Hinge Action -- Vertical, Horizontal or Angled). Again, this alignment is independent of the Thumb Location.
But -- and here's the key -- you need to leave behind the popular teaching that states the Left Thumb and Forefinger 'webbing' needs to be closed. The best Thrust Support through Impact requires an Aft Left Thumb, and this mandates a slightly separated Thumb and Forefinger. It is the only way to maintain both the Aft Thumb and the Vertical Wrist). This is an important point, one that I soon will illustrate using still photos or video or both.
Now, it is a fact that most TOUR players don't do this. But it does not follow that they are using the best procedure. It means only that they were trained traditionally. Remember, these guys wake up every morning looking for any edge they can get. And like the 'Fosberry Flop' that revolutionized the centuries-old approach to the high jump...
I am convinced you will put together a great & highly informative site. I think I echo the sentiments of allot of people when I say a picture(s) or videos would lift allot of fog.
A quick follow up question. Do I need to position the thumb to make a full thumb print on the aft side or simply have the inside of the thumb pressing on the aft side shaft?
But -- and here's the key -- you need to leave behind the popular teaching that states the Left Thumb and Forefinger 'webbing' needs to be closed. The best Thrust Support through Impact requires an Aft Left Thumb, and this mandates a slightly separated Thumb and Forefinger. It is the only way to maintain both the Aft Thumb and the Vertical Wrist). This is an important point, one that I soon will illustrate using still photos or video or both.
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Lynn,
Congratulations on establishing your website! I look forward with great anticipation to your efforts here, and am appreciative for your past efforts on other boards.
Regarding the above.... I was concerned about my grip as I thought there were 3 parts to the puzzle. Vertical wrist, anterior left thumb, and traditional "webbing" of the index finger and thumb. Spent an afternoon trying to fit that all together. And couldn't do it.
I went with what I had read about the wrist and thumb. It felt right for my Hit. So I stayed with it. It's good to get validation of it. Thanks.
I am convinced you will put together a great & highly informative site. I think I echo the sentiments of allot of people when I say a picture(s) or videos would lift allot of fog.
A quick follow up question. Do I need to position the thumb to make a full thumb print on the aft side or simply have the inside of the thumb pressing on the aft side shaft?
Thanks again,
Terry
Terry - when I use the thumb on the side with hitting, I get a very noticable blister on my 'thumb print', although it is not quite 'centered' on the thumb.
Lynn - with swinging, I end up with the left side of my middle finger, lead hand, getting a workout - the side of the finger, just near the tip. Any insight you can share re: this would be appreciated greatly. Is this why\where many tour players use tape?
Thanks - EdZ
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In regards to left thumb position as per Yoda, is this also the correct position for Swingers?
Hitting or Swinging, the Club is driven through Impact by an On Plane Force (1-L-#10) moving toward the Plane Line. With Hitting, that Force is Muscular. With Swinging, that Force is Centrifugal. No matter how the Club is driven, that drive must be delivered through Pressure Points. And those Pressure Points are best located On Plane at right angles to the Clubshaft (1-L-#11). In other words...
Lynn - with swinging, I end up with the left side of my middle finger, lead hand, getting a workout - the side of the finger, just near the tip. Any insight you can share re: this would be appreciated greatly. Is this why\where many tour players use tape?
Welcome, Ed. Good to have you aboard!
I've never had this Left Hand middle finger problem, Ed, even when I was predominantly Swinging. Do you use a Glove? Cord Grips? Do you Grip the Club 'loosely'?
Regarding the taping, the Tour players I've seen tape the Right Hand -- the one that is bearing the brunt of the Clubhead Lag -- not the Left.
I don't use a glove, with a tour wrap cord grip. I'm thinking it may just be from the 'groove' in the wrap/cord. I'm going to move to a winn to see if the issue goes away.
Very glad to be here Lynn. Thanks for stepping up and helping the golfing world!
Knowledge is power
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