Waist bend is Forward Bend of the Torso..Axis Tilt is Lateral Bending of the Torso caused by the hips translating or sliding laterally but in the confines of the Tripod while keeping the upper center the head/base of the neck stationary...thus tilting the plane of the shoulder turn....
There are also some that teach people to start off with a tilt of so many degrees(at setup). Others advocate the HANDS MORE AT MID-BODY, AND THE SHOULDERS AS LEVEL AS POSSIBLE AT ADDRESS(Reverse K vs. Tripod).
Also... do you see a correlation between those that bend over more at setup(down the line view), with less axis tilt(face on view), and those that stand taller, with more tilt(Mac O'Grady vs. Davis Love)?
-B. The downward force results from the action of Axis Tilt (Hip Slide-7-14) and/or Uncocking left wrist (2-P) if there is any of either. Otherwise, the Lever Assemblies are dropped, pulled or pushed downward from their fulcrums (6-A).
[quote=lagster]> About how many degrees should one tilt?
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I do not recall Mr Kelley referring to degrees in this regard. In fact, I think Homer only refers to degrees once or twice (rusty!), and I know one of them is in 2-G. In othewards, Homer wasn't concerned about degrees in regards to your question.
However!
The axis tilt should be enough to move the right shoulder on plane and enough to allow the hands to have a straight line relationship to the ball (all things being equal).
In otherwards, get the hands onplane and I would think (dangerous for me - thinking!) your axis tilt concerns would vanish!