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Old 05-06-2006, 11:54 PM
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That's as specific as I was looking for, thank you!

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Old 05-07-2006, 12:04 AM
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Also I just want to add a few things since we're on topic. As pp3 is aggresively applying extensor action (you really feel pp3) that pressure is also onplane. When you look at 1-L and the hinge, notice that the secondary hinge in the dual horizontal hinge action, that lifts the left arm up and down which actually is what the magic of the right forearm is all about - any bending of the right arm with extensor action will lift the left arm in a circular motion around its pin. In the dual horizontal hinge the left arm is lifted till the top of the backstroke, goes back down till low point and then lifts again till the finish of the stroke. The constant 'onplane' pressure of pp3 towards the plane line as pp4 drives the lever assembly is what drops the left arm onto the ball...

Because the stretch is also onplane as pp4 pressure is created against the lever assembly, and the fact pp3 is also on the plane and your pp3 won't be offplane (I hope), as the pressure of pp4 works against the onplane pressure of pp3, this tilts the spine and drops the right shoulder axis tilt until pp3 can trace down the plane line.

Also the pressure of pp3 towards the plane line is what keeps the level condition of the right wrist....

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Old 05-07-2006, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
Also I just want to add a few things since we're on topic. As pp3 is aggresively applying extensor action (you really feel pp3) that pressure is also onplane. When you look at 1-L and the hinge, notice that the secondary hinge in the dual horizontal hinge action, that lifts the left arm up and down which actually is what the magic of the right forearm is all about - any bending of the right arm with extensor action will lift the left arm in a circular motion around its pin. In the dual horizontal hinge the left arm is lifted till the top of the backstroke, goes back down till low point and then lifts again till the finish of the stroke. The constant 'onplane' pressure of pp3 towards the plane line as pp4 drives the lever assembly is what drops the left arm onto the ball...

Because the stretch is also onplane as pp4 pressure is created against the lever assembly, and the fact pp3 is also on the plane and your pp3 won't be offplane (I hope), as the pressure of pp4 works against the onplane pressure of pp3, this tilts the spine and drops the right shoulder axis tilt until pp3 can trace down the plane line.

Also the pressure of pp3 towards the plane line is what keeps the level condition of the right wrist....
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:13 AM
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Old 05-07-2006, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
...as the pressure of pp4 works against the onplane pressure of pp3, this tilts the spine and drops the right shoulder axis tilt until pp3 can trace down the plane line.

Also the pressure of pp3 towards the plane line is what keeps the level condition of the right wrist....
Mathew,
By "work against the onplane pressure of pp3", do you mean it exerts force against lag? Just trying to clear the fog. I understand and am clear on the rest. Good post.
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Old 05-07-2006, 01:31 PM
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Good Posts
Good posts here!

Some additional information on this can be found in the recent thread about CONNECTION.

As far as #4... what about 3 Barrel Hitting? No #4, or just very pasive?
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:37 PM
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Mathew,
By "work against the onplane pressure of pp3", do you mean it exerts force against lag? Just trying to clear the fog. I understand and am clear on the rest. Good post.
The force of extensor action with pp3 does not move the left arm and does not create clubhead lag - the stressing of the shaft.

PP4 works against the onplane pressure of pp3 until the spine tilts so that acc4 can thrust pp3 down the plane line. pp4 is trying to move the lever assembly out and pp3 is work against pp4 thats trying to take it offplane, the only way acc4 can move so that pp3 can trace that plane line is if the spine tilts and that right shoulder goes downplane.

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Old 05-07-2006, 04:14 PM
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Mathew,

Is this correct? For some reason, I have to get it into my own words to understand.

The upper torso must tilt and turn (pivot motion, right shoulder down plane) so that the #4 pressure point carries the #3 pressure point into release so that it can trace the plane line.

That's one reason (of many) that one cannot pull with the left arm only to start the downswing (a lot of topped shots).

It's just that I always thought the #3 pressure point is aiming from the top. Your explanation seems to work better.

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Old 05-07-2006, 05:21 PM
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Mathew,

Is this correct? For some reason, I have to get it into my own words to understand.

The upper torso must tilt and turn (pivot motion, right shoulder down plane) so that the #4 pressure point carries the #3 pressure point into release so that it can trace the plane line.

That's one reason (of many) that one cannot pull with the left arm only to start the downswing (a lot of topped shots).

It's just that I always thought the #3 pressure point is aiming from the top. Your explanation seems to work better.
The entire spine must tilt. The fact that pressure point 4 is working against the onplane pressure provided by extensor action means there is nothing else the body can do but tilt as pp4 is applied.
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Old 05-07-2006, 05:39 PM
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After trying it I came to the following conclusion. Tilting gives a downward force to the #4pp.
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