Shoulder turn went from A to C Rotated
Hip Turn went from A to B Slide
Power Package Loading went from Snap to Random Sweep
Power Package Release went from B to E Auto Sweep
Well there is an error...if the Power Package Release is "E" it should be Auto Snap not Sweep.
Very interesting...as I know several instructors that have been preferring the Rotated variation instead of the Flat Backstroke/On-Plane Downstroke (which is A).
Shoulder turn went from A to C Rotated
Hip Turn went from A to B Slide
Power Package Loading went from Snap to Random Sweep
Power Package Release went from B to E Auto Sweep
Well there is an error...if the Power Package Release is "E" it should be Auto Snap not Sweep.
DG
Hey David...
Maybe you should drop ol' Joe Daniels a line at the head office and let him know of the boo boo. Haha...
Very interesting...as I know several instructors that have been preferring the Rotated variation instead of the Flat Backstroke/On-Plane Downstroke (which is A).
Yoda has always been a big proponent of an 'as flat as possible backstroke shoulder turn'. I would be curious to hear what he thinks of this change.
Just from a pure visual perspective, the picture in 10-13-C #2 (Rotated Top) does look more orthodox than 10-13-B #2 (Flat Top).
Another interesting comment in my 6th edition about the Rotated Shoulder Turn Downstroke: "Downstroke use is normally confined to the shiftless Hip Turn".
Yoda has always been a big proponent of an 'as flat as possible backstroke shoulder turn'. I would be curious to hear what he thinks of this change.
Just from a pure visual perspective, the picture in 10-13-C #2 (Rotated Top) does look more orthodox than 10-13-B #2 (Flat Top).
Another interesting comment in my 6th edition about the Rotated Shoulder Turn Downstroke: "Downstroke use is normally confined to the shiftless Hip Turn".
7th Addition Questions:
My first question will be "How do I locate a Turned Shoulder Plane with a Rotated Shoulder Turn"?
My second question is "Hey, doesn't the picture 10-14-B #1 Top and 10-14-B #2 Finish remind you of Teds' reverse pivot video?
My first question will be "How do I locate a Turned Shoulder Plane with a Rotated Shoulder Turn"?
The Delivery Path of the Hands in the Backstroke...Try an Angled Line Delivery Path in the Backstroke and you will locate the Turned Shoulder Plane..
Who ever did that you may ask?..
Samuel Jackson Snead and his biggest fanatic ...Mac O'Grady....Both Rotated Shoulder Turn with lots of Waist Bend...Took it up the Elbow Plane and shifted nearly vertically up to the Turned Shoulder Plane.....
Back on thread...Has anyone gone throught the 7th editin yet..I figured someone like 12 Piece would already have Word Padded that Beast to se what the differences are?
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My first question will be "How do I locate a Turned Shoulder Plane with a Rotated Shoulder Turn"?
The Delivery Path of the Hands in the Backstroke...Try an Angled Line Delivery Path in the Backstroke and you will locate the Turned Shoulder Plane..
Who ever did that you may ask?..
Samuel Jackson Snead and his biggest fanatic ...Mac O'Grady....Both Rotated Shoulder Turn with lots of Waist Bend...Took it up the Elbow Plane and shifted nearly vertically up to the Turned Shoulder Plane.....
Back on thread...Has anyone gone throught the 7th editin yet..I figured someone like 12 Piece would already have Word Padded that Beast to se what the differences are?
Thanks. Sounds simple enough. If it's legal, I'll do it.
I've been going through it page by page with only the occational jumping to the back to peek at the ending.
Shoulder turn went from A to C Rotated
Hip Turn went from A to B Slide
Power Package Loading went from Snap to Random Sweep
Power Package Release went from B to E Auto Sweep
Well there is an error...if the Power Package Release is "E" it should be Auto Snap not Sweep.
DG
Shoulder turn went from A to C Rotated
Shoulder turn now more orthodox backstroke (90 degrees to spine) and "C" variant still allows on-plane downstroke. This seems sensible.
Hip Turn went from A to B Slide
Hip turn with slide... well 6th edition says it goes well with line delivery path... which fits well with auto snap release.(now in 7th edition as standard release - if typo above E = snap)
Power Package Loading went from Snap to Random Sweep
Snap Loading is rare nowadays - most do random sweep nowadays - so not much controversy here.
Power Package Release went from B to E Auto Sweep (presume mean "snap")
Well we all want to look and swing like Hogan...
It makes sense to have these changes. Imagine if you were not aware of TGM and picked up 7th edition... these would not appear too alien...although made in 1982, these changes are a 21st century swinging pattern! Homer ahead of his time again!!!
My only irritation is the mention of "zero axis shift" ( i am waiting for my copy but presume it is still there as this thread does not document its change). I do not wish to thread jack so if people want to discuss this then i will start another thread... it seemed like "the holy Grail" but in my experience it is impossible ( for me and similar anatomical variants = humanish!!) to implement with level wrist and TSP.
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