A Challenge to AI's and Teachers: The Grasshopper, The Jedi and The PLAN
I am challenging all AI's and Koolaid Teachers. This is the the development of the Bucket Doctrine.
The 7th Edition has now been released. We have the final words of Mr. K in print. The integrity of what has been added and deleted can and has been debated by some adnausium. Frankly it is tired. Mr. K could have stopped at the 1st Edition and we would STILL HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION IN GOLF bar none. It is time to move forward.
I would say that 99.9% of us visit the respective forums for one reason. And that reason is a selfish reason. We want to improve whether that be teaching or playing. We want to get better at what WE DO. More things have been accomplished for the "masses" as a result of "selfish" reasons than "charity." Study economics and you'll understand.
We are all blessed to play the greatest and most beautiful game of golf. We have been blessed with the best information in golf.
But . . .
Why are golfers stagnant in their improvement? I think that people under the wing of any AI have a better chance of sucess than just guidance from a normal PGA type. But still people are not improving. My contention is that they don't have a PLAN or a Roadmap to get BETTER. There is no orderly structure of practicing or long term, interim and short term objectives. We just drive around making left turns.
Golfers are different in their stages of life and golf development. You have young kids and aspiring professionals who can practice and play all day everyday. You have older working slobs with childern who have a limited amount of time to devote to the game. You have retired old farts with time but lacking in physical skills. So the road maps for each must necessarily be different.
I think teachers have done us a disservice by not starting with a Planning Session. I have take a ton of lessons from a bunch of people. I have had some absolutely fabulous lessons too. But never once . . . not a single time. . . zip . . . zero . . . nada . . . has anybody asked me. "Hey doofus here's where I think you are and just where do you want to go in this game? What do you want to accomplish? Oh by the way you got a little grease or something right there . . "
Selfishly I am a dude that has to work and has small little urchins tearing up stuff. I have accomplished nothing in the game to this point other than shooting a few low scores. So I would like to develop a set of long range goals, intermediate goals and short term goals to work towards. My mind needs to be focused and disciplined to follow a more structured approach to improvement.
Problem . . . I'm not sure how to go about it. I need a sheperd, a steward, a tour guide on my road to gettin' better . . .
Just thinking out loud . . . maybe a good long range goal would be to win my club championship. Great but what is the best way to get there? I need definable milestones to mark my progress along the way.
PLUS I need to know where I am RIGHT NOW. I need an assessment of my TOTAL GAME. Short Game? Putting? Irons? Driver? Course Strategy? Mental Game? Managing Emotions?
So once I know where I be and where I wants to go . . . How do I get from Point A to Point B? That's what we are missing IMO.
AI's and Instructors Baptised in the Kool Aid are much much much smarter than the average bear. You have the best INFO . . . what are you gonna do with it? So I'm challenging you. Let's come up with some sample PLANS for the different categories of golfers. We spend a lot of time on mechanics but the game is way more beautiful than mechanics. Let's accomplish something selfishly together.
Who's got a set?
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 05-31-2006 at 08:42 AM.
Whoa Nelly....Tell us how you really feel!!! All plans need the abilty to adjust along the way..but I get your point and I do concur...The game of golf is much more than the mastery of one's mechanics it's a journey...And many friends, relationships, lessons, defeats and persoanl victories are encountered along the way....Perhaps the "Pursuit of Perfection" is what often causes one to lose perspective of smellin the grass and enjoying each and every moment...But to the original challenge....your position is well debated..but I'm afraid the true challenge lies within the individual to strive to get better...."The Intangibles" are what are the fuel that guides golfers to better golf....Talent,Heart,Work Ethic, Strong Will, Courage, Drive, Determnation, "A Sack" and etc...One can work on the mechanics for eternity and still not know how to score, grind, will that ball ito the hole to accomplish the simplicity of Rule 1-1(USGA Rulebook)...
My Deep Battered Little Friend..
Golf in it's simplicity....The Game of Golf consists of playing a ball with a club from the teeing ground by a stroke or sucessive strokes to a hole in accordance with the Rules....
We all forget how simple that is.....
Golf and it's complexity....The Game of Golf consists of controlling a ball with a club..........
You get the point...
Yes..one needs a guide and the right information but more importantly the individual needs to be able to do it frequentlyNot once a month....once a week, ...but each and every day....many times throughout the day....
At Campbell we have done a case study with a 1/1 hour lesson a week...3/20 minute lessons a week.. and 5/12 minute sessions a week...which one turned out to be the most successful?...I think we all know the answer to that......
People want to play like the PGA Tour Players...Do they play and practice as frequently as the Tour Players...perhaps some...but I would say not nearly enough....
So Bucket ...I answer your challenge first and foremost ....because we are friends...Get your arse in your car and come see me for a minimum of 3/20 minute sessions per week or better yet move you family down here to the Creek and I'll work with you 5 days a week..You get the weekends off to be your "redneck mullet self"...
Three 20 minute lessons a week sounds good but the real issue is how many weeks. Most students would go for two weeks and get very little out of the sessions but for 20 weeks the student could get enormous info and have the muscles trained. Mentally and physically.
I just try to get as good as I possibly can. No point in doing anything else...esp. considering how much I love golf and how good, I feel, I can be.
If I had less time it would be: how good I can get considering how much time I have to give to golf.
I mean....lots of people dream about doing this or doing that...being pro....hell I think about that sometimes.....why not.....but for me it's more about being as good as I can rather than a hard-assed specific GOAL. Get as good as you can see how far it can take you....if it's to a 5 hdcp good stuff.....if it's scratch and club champ....good stuff.....if it's to the tour....hell yes good stuff. Either way you're as good as you can be.
Maybe you need that specific goal for extra motivation...but that's never been an issue for me.
Improve or nothing IMO....
I dunno how ppl can say "Well I just want to have fun....." Esp. the ones who are out there quite a bit. To me, playing well is what fun is all about. I don't have fun when I'm hacking it up all over the place....good god....all that does is piss me off (rargrgAARGrHAGRHGrhgr! like this).
I mean, I guess I can understand having a good time with your buddies on the course, etc.....and also can def. understand not going to the range all the time, etc. (although everyone who plays fairly avidly or seriously should go once in a while)....I dunno....I still want to be good tho.
...lol I'm honestly not a big try hard or a hardass either....or bigtime hothead (when I lose, etc.)....I just want to be good....that's how I have my fun.
I dunno....if I'm playing a sport I want to be good.....no point otherwise.....have fun of course....don't be a bad loser....be your on your best aside from the game itself.....but man....you've gotta want to play well.
Last edited by birdie_man : 05-31-2006 at 01:46 PM.
but I'm afraid the true challenge lies within the individual to strive to get better...."The Intangibles" are what are the fuel that guides golfers to better golf....Talent,Heart,Work Ethic, Strong Will, Courage, Drive, Determnation, "A Sack" and etc...One can work on the mechanics for eternity and still not know how to score, grind, will that ball ito the hole to accomplish the simplicity of
My Deep Battered Little Friend..
You get the point...
Yes..one needs a guide and the right information but more importantly the individual needs to be able to do it frequentlyNot once a month....once a week, ...but each and every day....many times throughout the day....
At Campbell we have done a case study with a 1/1 hour lesson a week...3/20 minute lessons a week.. and 5/12 minute sessions a week...which one turned out to be the most successful?...I think we all know the answer to that......
People want to play like the PGA Tour Players...Do they play and practice as frequently as the Tour Players...perhaps some...but I would say not nearly enough....
So Bucket ...I answer your challenge first and foremost ....because we are friends...Get your arse in your car and come see me for a minimum of 3/20 minute sessions per week or better yet move you family down here to the Creek and I'll work with you 5 days a week..You get the weekends off to be your "redneck mullet self"...
D,
You are in fact one of the very very very few that have the unique qualifications to answer the call to my challenge. I think there are only a few that I would entrust to write a guide or produce a video to guide a player's improvement. The qualifications would be a blend of a pre-requisite amount of G.O.L.F. knowledge, lesson tee experience, playing experience and ability to communicate effectively. I have seen you in action and you got the goods.
I think a lot of pro's feel like to be successful they have to have a Tour Player in there stable. This may be so for marketing purposes. But I think the real area for a teacher to achieve prominence is with the "average" player. Tour Players well they are . . . Tour Players. They generally got it figured out. The "average" dude is struggling. But the nice thing about the "average" dude is there are a lot of 'em. If somebody could come up with a boilerplate on how to go about reducing your handicap by 30%, you'd be rich.
The golf book/video that needs to be produced in my opinion is this. The Makeover of Average Joe.
Chapter 1. What kind of "Average" Joe are you? Base it on current handicap, handicap goal, competitive goals, amount of time to devote to practice
Chapter 2. Where are your CURRENT strengths and weaknesses Give people quantifiable tests to determine their handicaps in different facits of the game. I go to this website where the do this my long game handicap is 3 short game is 11 and putting is a whopping 24. Yikes!!! So where do you reckon I need to spend my time.
Chapter 3. Defining your Roadmap Have different Goal schemes for each "Average" Joe type. I would base it on Time and Target Handicap/Competitive goal. So maybe one Joe wants to win his flight or another wants to win the State Am whatever. And then say with your X number of practice/playing hours per week here's how to organize your practice. And if that means taking lessons for 10 minutes 3 times a week so be it. Give stories on people who have broken out of a plateau and how the did it and how long it took.
Chapter 4. Fundamentals Here we teach the Imperatives Wedges etc. I would use some David Orr pics with Tour Player's along side Hacks and point out the differences.
Chapter 5. How to stop thinking Average and start thinking like a Champion I've never done anything so I got nothing here.
Chapter 6 How and What to Practice Breakdown how to organize Practice Time. How to Translate Precision Mechanics to FEEL. How to PRACTICE TO SCORE!!!
That's what I got. But I think a lot of people have the desire to get better but do they have the impetus to act? Debatable. I think if people can get the best information (which we got) and develop a Long Range Plan with intermediate goals to check off and away to practice effectively they can get better.
Hell maybe this doesn't need to be a book or video. It could be even better on the web where people could send in video of their motion. You could get a 10 minute lesson 3 times a week on the web without having to drive 2 hours to do it.
This is one thing that is extremely dissapointing to me about the current onwers of The Golfing Machine. Anybody could have just published the changes as Mr. K saw fit. But who's gonna pick up the ball and run with it? I talked to them on the phone about what's next. I got the impression that they didn't know. They were very nice. But I get the impression that a vision is lacking. I wish them the best. Therer are a lot of tools available now the Mr. K was not fortunate enough to have at his disposal.
The message needs to get out. The Yellow Book was way ahead of it's time. Now technology has caught up. Now people have chance to see the concepts demonstrated such as what's going on at LBG and orrgolf.com etc. We have the information. AI's know how to communicate the concepts. But now it's time to integrate it into a plan for people to get better. Let's get the ball in the endzone.
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Aloha Mr. Hand
Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand
Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 05-31-2006 at 02:26 PM.
You are in fact one of the very very very few that have the unique qualifications to answer the call to my challenge. I think there are only a few that I would entrust to write a guide or produce a video to guide a player's improvement. The qualifications would be a blend of a pre-requisite amount of G.O.L.F. knowledge, lesson tee experience, playing experience and ability to communicate effectively. I have seen you in action and you got the goods.
I think a lot of pro's feel like to be successful they have to have a Tour Player in there stable. This may be so for marketing purposes. But I think the real area for a teacher to achieve prominence is with the "average" player. Tour Players well they are . . . Tour Players. They generally got it figured out. The "average" dude is struggling. But the nice thing about the "average" dude is there are a lot of 'em. If somebody could come up with a boilerplate on how to go about reducing your handicap by 30%, you'd be rich.
The golf book/video that needs to be produced in my opinion is this. The Makeover of Average Joe.
Chapter 1. What kind of "Average" Joe are you? Base it on current handicap, handicap goal, competitive goals, amount of time to devote to practice
Chapter 2. Where are your CURRENT strengths and weaknesses Give people quantifiable tests to determine their handicaps in different facits of the game. I go to this website where the do this my long game handicap is 3 short game is 11 and putting is a whopping 24. Yikes!!! So where do you reckon I need to spend my time.
Chapter 3. Defining your Roadmap Have different Goal schemes for each "Average" Joe type. I would base it on Time and Target Handicap/Competitive goal. So maybe one Joe wants to win his flight or another wants to win the State Am whatever. And then say with your X number of practice/playing hours per week here's how to organize your practice. And if that means taking lessons for 10 minutes 3 times a week so be it. Give stories on people who have broken out of a plateau and how the did it and how long it took.
Chapter 4. Fundamentals Here we teach the Imperatives Wedges etc. I would use some David Orr pics with Tour Player's along side Hacks and point out the differences.
Chapter 5. How to stop thinking Average and start thinking like a Champion I've never done anything so I got nothing here.
Chapter 6 How and What to Practice Breakdown how to organize Practice Time. How to Translate Precision Mechanics to FEEL. How to PRACTICE TO SCORE!!!
That's what I got. But I think a lot of people have the desire to get better but do they have the impetus to act? Debatable. I think if people can get the best information (which we got) and develop a Long Range Plan with intermediate goals to check off and away to practice effectively they can get better.
Hell maybe this doesn't need to be a book or video. It could be even better on the web where people could send in video of their motion. You could get a 10 minute lesson 3 times a week on the web without having to drive 2 hours to do it.
This is one thing that is extremely dissapointing to me about the current onwers of The Golfing Machine. Anybody could have just published the changes as Mr. K saw fit. But who's gonna pick up the ball and run with it? I talked to them on the phone about what's next. I got the impression that they didn't know. They were very nice. But I get the impression that a vision is lacking. I wish them the best. Therer are a lot of tools available now the Mr. K was not fortunate enough to have at his disposal.
The message needs to get out. The Yellow Book was way ahead of it's time. Now technology has caught up. Now people have chance to see the concepts demonstrated such as what's going on at LBG and orrgolf.com etc. We have the information. AI's know how to communicate the concepts. But now it's time to integrate it into a plan for people to get better. Let's get the ball in the endzone.
What is your email? I will send you my practice log that I use. It is very detailed and I keep track of precisely what I practice and how well I do each time I practice. I then enter my results into a database and I trend out how I am doing.
What is your email? I will send you my practice log that I use. It is very detailed and I keep track of precisely what I practice and how well I do each time I practice. I then enter my results into a database and I trend out how I am doing.
What is your email? I will send you my practice log that I use. It is very detailed and I keep track of precisely what I practice and how well I do each time I practice. I then enter my results into a database and I trend out how I am doing.
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