Right Forearm at Top for Hitting and Swinging

[Daryl]

I have witnessed the one and only Yoda Hit and swing. The two procedures don't look the same. It was hardly perceptible that he loaded the #3 pressure point differently for each procedure. He may have only needed a fraction of a difference in elbow location to develop the difference in load direction. He is just too damn well trained.

You can load directly against the Primary Lever Assembly without having your right elbow flare out behind you. If it is flared out behind at the Top, then you may not have the elbow On-Plane for impact. After Start-down is when the pushing (I think) through #1PP begins (for Hitting) but the right elbow needs to be On-Plane for the right forearm to be On-Plane.

I'm not a Hitter. I'm still learning to Swing. I may have to caddie.

[annikan skywalker]

Orbiting Arms is around the axis of rotation of the left shoulder or Hinge Pin and abduction/adduction/internal and external rotation at the shoulder....Swiveling is independent rotation of the lower arm ...the axis of rotation at the elbow...a radial/ulnar movement

[Daryl]

Orbiting Arms is around the axis of rotation of the left shoulder or Hinge Pin and abduction/adduction/internal and external rotation at the shoulder....Swiveling is independent rotation of the lower arm ...the axis of rotation at the elbow...a radial/ulnar movement

Who are you and what have you done with annikan skywalker?

Not exactly. The left shoulder is the center of rotation of the left arm only. The stationary head, is the center of the swing (can act as though it's the center). In non-pivot strokes you are correct, the hinge pin is located at the left shoulder, however in Pivot Strokes, The Turning Torso, around its center (Head) is the location of the hinge pin. The left arm and shoulders travel through the Impact Interval together as though welded together (if for only briefly). Then the path of this structure can be Horizontal-closing only, vertical- layed back only or Angled-closing and laying back. The path is dictated from educated hands. That is why Homer Kelley said that holding the left wrist vertical to one of the basic planes will impart that same action to the hinge. (I could have said that better)

The swivel in a full Pivot stoke, should, as especially seen in the follow-through swivel, be a rotation of the arms and not just the forearms below the elbows. Using one of the Edz drills, cup your hands in front of you and entwine the fingers of each hand together. Now, swing them back and forth using your shoulder turn to move your arms (keep your arms in front of your torso) and you'll see the full arm rotation of a swivel. A swivel is the full arm rotation about/around/within the torso rotation (Pivot). Arm rotation in the hinge is imparted by shoulder rotation (I Could have said that better too).

If I was to get into the Arnold Palmer Putting Posture (APPP), then my elbows would be tight against my sides and swivel would only be from the elbows down (non-pivot stroke).

One more point. The bending and unbending of the elbow (right elbow) permits the roll swivel and the turn swivel. The bending left elbow in the follow through permits the follow through swivel. Fanning motion of the right forearm at takeaway is because the whole right arm is rotating. If the whole right arm did not rotate, you would have Right hand Turn, but no fanning. That could Uncock the Right Wrist and effect the Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

PS. I've seen pics of your swing posted on other threads. I don't know what you are feeling, but it looks like you're doing it perfectly. Very impressive motion.

[Weightshift]

Here's a picture of Yoda at the Top of his Hitting Stroke:



Here's one of Yoda at the Top (the End) of his Swinging Stroke:



According to The Golfing Machine:
[snip]
I can't see the difference in Right Forearm locations in these pictures.

Can you?

What is going on?

"What is going on" is that the first and last pictures are only millisconds apart of the same stroke. Look at the player in the background, his downstroke position has only changed slightly. Even the lights of the incoming UFO seen between the players are in the same position in both pictures Unless, of course, Yoda is able to change his swing technique mid-swing

[tongzilla]

"What is going on" is that the first and last pictures are only millisconds apart of the same stroke. Look at the player in the background, his downstroke position has only changed slightly. Even the lights of the incoming UFO seen between the players are in the same position in both pictures Unless, of course, Yoda is able to change his swing technique mid-swing

Those two pictures are NOT from the same Stroke.

Go look at the original video in The Gallery section if you don't believe me.

They are two different strokes. One of them with Yoda demonstrating Swinging, the other Hitting.

The player in the background is just coincidence.

[12 piece bucket]

Those two pictures are NOT from the same Stroke.

Go look at the original video in The Gallery section if you don't believe me.

They are two different strokes. One of them with Yoda demonstrating Swinging, the other Hitting.

The player in the background is just coincidence.

I don't know . . . check the number of balls in the background on the dude behind him. He's just out there making practice swings then . . .

[annikan skywalker]

Who are you and what have you done with annikan skywalker?

Not exactly. The left shoulder is the center of rotation of the left arm only. The stationary head, is the center of the swing (can act as though it's the center). In non-pivot strokes you are correct, the hinge pin is located at the left shoulder, however in Pivot Strokes, The Turning Torso, around its center (Head) is the location of the hinge pin. The left arm and shoulders travel through the Impact Interval together as though welded together (if for only briefly). Then the path of this structure can be Horizontal-closing only, vertical- layed back only or Angled-closing and laying back. The path is dictated from educated hands. That is why Homer Kelley said that holding the left wrist vertical to one of the basic planes will impart that same action to the hinge. (I could have said that better)

The swivel in a full Pivot stoke, should, as especially seen in the follow-through swivel, be a rotation of the arms and not just the forearms below the elbows. Using one of the Edz drills, cup your hands in front of you and entwine the fingers of each hand together. Now, swing them back and forth using your shoulder turn to move your arms (keep your arms in front of your torso) and you'll see the full arm rotation of a swivel. A swivel is the full arm rotation about/around/within the torso rotation (Pivot). Arm rotation in the hinge is imparted by shoulder rotation (I Could have said that better too).

If I was to get into the Arnold Palmer Putting Posture (APPP), then my elbows would be tight against my sides and swivel would only be from the elbows down (non-pivot stroke).

One more point. The bending and unbending of the elbow (right elbow) permits the roll swivel and the turn swivel. The bending left elbow in the follow through permits the follow through swivel. Fanning motion of the right forearm at takeaway is because the whole right arm is rotating. If the whole right arm did not rotate, you would have Right hand Turn, but no fanning. That could Uncock the Right Wrist and effect the Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

PS. I've seen pics of your swing posted on other threads. I don't know what you are feeling, but it looks like you're doing it perfectly. Very impressive motion.

Check this out... Swivel? Notice the little pins..one is fixed at the shoulder at in ...the other is rotating...?????



Thanks for the compliment on my swing...feels aligned!!!!

[birdie_man]

Look at the arm poking in on the right side of the second pic (the Swing)...

....

Or you could just check the actual vid for yourself....

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...se_images&g=13

"Yoda-Swinging And Hitting Demo"

[tongzilla]

I don't know . . . check the number of balls in the background on the dude behind him. He's just out there making practice swings then . . .

I took the snapshots out of the original video from The Gallery, so I think I can be pretty sure that those two shots are from two separate strokes!

Like I said, if you don’t believe me, go freeze-frame the original video yourself!

[Weightshift]

Those two pictures are NOT from the same Stroke.

Go look at the original video in The Gallery section if you don't believe me.

They are two different strokes. One of them with Yoda demonstrating Swinging, the other Hitting.

The player in the background is just coincidence.

Actually I've just noticed that in the "swinging"
picture, there is something with a wheel at the right side, not visible in the "hitting" picture. My apologies please.