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Old 07-16-2006, 12:57 PM
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Right Arm Swinging and Longitudinal Acceleration
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Could this be the "secret" of using Right Arm Thrust when Swinging? That is, using your Right Arm to Accelerate the Club Longitundinally (lengthwise).
Yes...Tongzilla, I think you're on the money. As Tomasello would have said..."It's one smooth motion"...Right Arm Swingers don't start the downswing with their lower body...the downswing is started with the right forearm and the uncocking of the right elbow. See Tomasello's July 1991 Golf Illustrated interview....

GI: This "throwing the club down" with the right forearm---doesn't that go against everything we've been taught about the downswing?

Tomasello: Yes. The delayed hit is merely keeping the right wrist bent through impact. All that stuff about leading the downswing with a lateral move of the lower body, driving the hips and legs toward the target to retain power--it's all terribly wrong! It seems to be what's happening in the most efficient, centrifugal-force golf swing. The reality that most people can't comprehend is that in the centrigual-force swing there is no forward motion by any part of the body. There are just the two "force vectors" I've described.

GI: Are you saying that the golfer has to do less with his body? Aren't there any physical requirements?

Tomsello: The only agility needed by the player is to be able to turn the hips--to pivot around a fixed point--and to lever and unlever the right forearm. The faster you can make these two movements, the greater the centrigual force you'll build up and the farther you'll hit the ball.

See the Tomasello Letter series for clarification on the participation of the hips (lower body) in the above swing. Mark Evershed coined the phrase "quiet body".

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Old 07-16-2006, 04:20 PM
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Having watched alot of Evershed's stuff i took it to be that he was a hitter as he constantly referred to the right arm specifically forearm controlling the motion. Having emailed him direct to ask him about that he has confirmed he is a swinger so therefore must be a right arm swinger. Obviously the link with him and TT is well known. It appears to be another method adapted from the many different ways to transport the club head from address to finish which is The Golfing Machine.
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Old 07-16-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by golfer24
Having watched alot of Evershed's stuff i took it to be that he was a hitter as he constantly referred to the right arm specifically forearm controlling the motion. Having emailed him direct to ask him about that he has confirmed he is a swinger so therefore must be a right arm swinger. Obviously the link with him and TT is well known. It appears to be another method adapted from the many different ways to transport the club head from address to finish which is The Golfing Machine.
Yes, Mark's primary pattern is a swinging pattern (controlled by the right forearm). He also hits too (secondary pattern).

Thanks for the input golfer24.

At this point...after watching all of Tomasello video's, studying with Tommy personally, reviewing cassette tapes of my lessons with Tommy and now reading the 7th edition of the golfing machine...I believe Tomasello was deeply into the 7th edition by the mid-1980's...just read the new section of 12-5-3 then read 10-3-D and 10-3-K, then go to the chapter series video number 5, the video on "Power". When I studied with Tomasello in 1993 he made the comment "I have the 7th edition too". For what I've heard, Tomasello had a copy of the notes for the seventh edition at the time of Homer's passing or shortly after.

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Old 07-17-2006, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Using the Right Arm to Accelerate the Club Longitudinally is the classic Right Arm Swing. The procedure I've described above is Left Arm Swing (because the center of the Clubhead Arc remains at the Left Shoulder, i.e., it is not transferred to the Right Elbow).
Sorry I didn't make myself clear enough.

I was referring to the situation where the Left Shoulder remains the Stroke Center even though the Right Tricep further aids the Longitudinal Acceleration provided by the rotating Pivot.
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