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Old 08-26-2006, 03:30 PM
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Finding the Rotated Shoulder Component - New Swinging Pattern Component
For years I have been working on the Standard Shoulder Turn component....with the 7th edition and the revised swinging stroke pattern which now has a rotated shoulder turn component...thought about how to find the rotated shoulder turn. I found it easily with the Tomasello stick drill. What you need to do is find both the flat shoulder turn and the rotated shoulder and get the feel of both. Learn the Tomasello stick drill and see if you can find both...what I found is the right forearm takeaway naturally produces a rotated shoulder turn...using a standard hip turn finds the flat shoulder turn easily. What a revelation!!! Ya gotta love finding new things in TGM...even after 15 years of study. I'm sure Ted and Lynn and the rest of the long time devotees of the little yellow book would agree...one thing that the little yellow book teaches us...how long it takes to really master a subject.

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Old 08-26-2006, 05:53 PM
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can u describe the Tommy stick drill? thanks!
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Old 08-26-2006, 06:13 PM
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can u describe the Tommy stick drill? thanks!
Don't need to describe it when you can view Tomasello demonstrating himself....go the gallery and watch the Chapter 1 Tomasello video called the pivot.

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Old 08-28-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
For years I have been working on the Standard Shoulder Turn component....with the 7th edition and the revised swinging stroke pattern which now has a rotated shoulder turn component...thought about how to find the rotated shoulder turn. I found it easily with the Tomasello stick drill. What you need to do is find both the flat shoulder turn and the rotated shoulder and get the feel of both. Learn the Tomasello stick drill and see if you can find both...what I found is the right forearm takeaway naturally produces a rotated shoulder turn...using a standard hip turn finds the flat shoulder turn easily. What a revelation!!! Ya gotta love finding new things in TGM...even after 15 years of study. I'm sure Ted and Lynn and the rest of the long time devotees of the little yellow book would agree...one thing that the little yellow book teaches us...how long it takes to really master a subject.

DG
With the requirement to move the shoulder at right angles to the spine, do you see a greater danger of a reverse pivot, especially for those with limited flexibility. If you didn't use an address spine tilt away from the target with the Flat Shoulder Turn are you using it with Rotated?

Not sure about "finding it!"

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Old 09-05-2006, 09:54 PM
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Fully Integrating the Rotated Shoulder Turn
Boy am I enjoying the Rotated Shoulder Turn...making real progress with the rotated Shoulder coupled with the right arm full powered Tomasello swing-a-ma-bob....feels natural with the right forearm takeaway. Crushing drives and hitting greens with precision....feels good with a three barrel hitting stroke too.

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Old 09-13-2006, 05:53 PM
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The rotated shoulder turn is very prone to being misunderstood. Esp if you do what instructors do on the golf channel...lol

The initial acceleration of the right shoulder must be onplane via hip slide to provide the onplane thrust during startdown and then and only then from that point should the right shoulder rotate around the spine from its tilted position to allow the left shoulder to get onplane for the followthrough.

If you think the right shoulder just goes downplane your in trouble. And likewise, if you think it just rotates your in trouble too.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:06 PM
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Can anyone provide pictures of swing sequences that show pro golfers using a flat backstroke shoulder turn and a rotated shoulder turn?

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Old 09-13-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
If you think the right shoulder just goes downplane your in trouble. And likewise, if you think it just rotates your in trouble too.
Then what does it do?
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:55 PM
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Down and through
The shoulder first goes downa and then through on plane.
Very interesting analysis, DG. Very interesting.......
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Originally Posted by glcoach
Then what does it do?
Read the part that you didn't quote.

The initial acceleration from the right shoulder going downplane via hip slide 'spins the flywheel' with its onplane thrust and motion during the initial start down, only then you go to a rotated shoulder turn.
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