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Old 09-05-2006, 08:47 PM
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Old 09-22-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RatherBeGolfing
Straight line delivery path.

When drawing on a video analysis, does the line from the top go to the back of the ball or the aiming point(impact fix)?

When demonstrating, does the stretch band from the top go to the back of the ball or the aiming point(impact fix)?

6-C-2-A. THE ESSENCE of Clubhead Lag technique is that it is always both Aiming AND Thrust. Passive-it is primarily Aiming the Lag Pressure. Active-it--it is primarily Thrusting the Lag Pressure Point. The Orbiting Clubhead does not seek out the Ball--seeks out the Delivery Line. But never directly-only via the Right Forearm and the #3 Pressure Point per 2-F, 5-0 and 7-3. It is guided along that Line to the Both Arms Straight configuration by the straight line thrust of the #3 Pressure Point toward the Angle of Approach quadrant of the Ball-or Aiming Point- per 1-F, 1-L-9/10, 2-5-3 and 6-E-2.
This a critical point to understand in the book. It has a very much to do with Plane Angle, the Endless Belt, Straight Line Delivery Path of the Hands, Delivery Lines of the Clubhead, Aiming Point, Inside Out Impact vs. Inside Out Stroke, Trigger Delay, Axis Tilt, Circle Geometry and the absolute dismissal of the Target Line and the Clubhead to the HANDS and their Pressure Point Pressure.

If you get this part . . . you pretty much got the meat of the book IMO.
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Old 09-23-2006, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

This a critical point to understand in the book. It has a very much to do with Plane Angle, the Endless Belt, Straight Line Delivery Path of the Hands, Delivery Lines of the Clubhead, Aiming Point, Inside Out Impact vs. Inside Out Stroke, Trigger Delay, Axis Tilt, Circle Geometry and the absolute dismissal of the Target Line and the Clubhead to the HANDS and their Pressure Point Pressure.

If you get this part . . . you pretty much got the meat of the book IMO.

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What a great post, Bucket. Thanks!

This is not a 'quick read,' folks. Get your TGM and settle in for awhile.

"You can do a lot of learning in your arm chair."

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Old 09-23-2006, 05:08 AM
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You "sustain the Lag", the mother nature ("Law") takes care the rest.
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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Old 09-23-2006, 09:22 PM
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What a great post, Bucket. Thanks!

This is not a 'quick read,' folks. Get your TGM and settle in for awhile.

"You can do a lot of learning in your arm chair."

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Thanks Boss . . . credit due to you and to Mr. K.

I think the Endless Belt Concept is PURE genius . . . the other thing I left out was CONSTANT HAND SPEED and thus STRONG DELIBERATE AND HEAVY FEEL OF DRAGGING THE WET MOP DOWN DOWN DOWN PLANE.

HOWEVER . . . I think one thing we MUST keep in mind is the images or misconceptions that can be associated with the language that we use to describe things.

I think that if people have the impression that can Load the Pressure Points as much as they like (strong) then they may OVERLOAD them and not be able to take the Lag all the way DOWN because they can't SUSTAIN it. It is of course SUSTAIN the Lag not INCREASE it.

OVER ACCELERATION IS THE MENACE THAT STALKS ALL LAG AND DRAG!!!

Case in point. . . I'm playing and just kind of scraping it around on Thursday. On the last three holes I think . . . I'm just gonna Load #4 and let my left arm be a piece of rope . . . just relax Bucket. Bada Bing Bada BOOOOOM!!! Three drives over 290. Two right at 3 bills. AND I DON'T EVER HIT THE BALL THAT FAR!!! So I finish PAR BIRDIE BIRDIE.

I think that you really have to get intouch with your SENSITIVE side at least if you are a Swinger. Your hands will send you more a SUBTLE message . . . My main man Eddie Cox says it should be "Sensitivity Points" and not Pressure Points. You gotta get really in tune with your Hands and Monitor the very subtle message they send you if you are going to effectively manipulate CF. You don't have to DO ANYTHING much. CF will work for you . . . I promise!!! If it can keep the Earth in its orbit . . . surely it can bust the cover off a golf ball for you.
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Old 09-23-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Thanks Boss . . . credit due to you and to Mr. K.

I think the Endless Belt Concept is PURE genius . . . the other thing I left out was CONSTANT HAND SPEED and thus STRONG DELIBERATE AND HEAVY FEEL OF DRAGGING THE WET MOP DOWN DOWN DOWN PLANE.

HOWEVER . . . I think one thing we MUST keep in mind is the images or misconceptions that can be associated with the language that we use to describe things.

I think that if people have the impression that can Load the Pressure Points as much as they like (strong) then they may OVERLOAD them and not be able to take the Lag all the way DOWN because they can't SUSTAIN it. It is of course SUSTAIN the Lag not INCREASE it.

OVER ACCELERATION IS THE MENACE THAT STALKS ALL LAG AND DRAG!!!

Case in point. . . I'm playing and just kind of scraping it around on Thursday. On the last three holes I think . . . I'm just gonna Load #4 and let my left arm be a piece of rope . . . just relax Bucket. Bada Bing Bada BOOOOOM!!! Three drives over 290. Two right at 3 bills. AND I DON'T EVER HIT THE BALL THAT FAR!!! So I finish PAR BIRDIE BIRDIE.

I think that you really have to get intouch with your SENSITIVE side at least if you are a Swinger. Your hands will send you more a SUBTLE message . . . My main man Eddie Cox says it should be "Sensitivity Points" and not Pressure Points. You gotta get really in tune with your Hands and Monitor the very subtle message they send you if you are going to effectively manipulate CF. You don't have to DO ANYTHING much. CF will work for you . . . I promise!!! If it can keep the Earth in its orbit . . . surely it can bust the cover off a golf ball for you.
Allowing CF to do it's thing is the most unnerving feeling if you aren't used to it; it feels like you're not in control of the swing. You're just along for the ride. This is probably why Homer said you can sleep and swing. Assuming you have all of your pre-swing alignments in order, you just kind of get the ball rolling. CF does the rest. Control freaks, beware.
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Thanks Boss . . . credit due to you and to Mr. K.

I think the Endless Belt Concept is PURE genius . . . the other thing I left out was CONSTANT HAND SPEED and thus STRONG DELIBERATE AND HEAVY FEEL OF DRAGGING THE WET MOP DOWN DOWN DOWN PLANE.

HOWEVER . . . I think one thing we MUST keep in mind is the images or misconceptions that can be associated with the language that we use to describe things.

I think that if people have the impression that can Load the Pressure Points as much as they like (strong) then they may OVERLOAD them and not be able to take the Lag all the way DOWN because they can't SUSTAIN it. It is of course SUSTAIN the Lag not INCREASE it.

OVER ACCELERATION IS THE MENACE THAT STALKS ALL LAG AND DRAG!!!

Case in point. . . I'm playing and just kind of scraping it around on Thursday. On the last three holes I think . . . I'm just gonna Load #4 and let my left arm be a piece of rope . . . just relax Bucket. Bada Bing Bada BOOOOOM!!! Three drives over 290. Two right at 3 bills. AND I DON'T EVER HIT THE BALL THAT FAR!!! So I finish PAR BIRDIE BIRDIE.

I think that you really have to get intouch with your SENSITIVE side at least if you are a Swinger. Your hands will send you more a SUBTLE message . . . My main man Eddie Cox says it should be "Sensitivity Points" and not Pressure Points. You gotta get really in tune with your Hands and Monitor the very subtle message they send you if you are going to effectively manipulate CF. You don't have to DO ANYTHING much. CF will work for you . . . I promise!!! If it can keep the Earth in its orbit . . . surely it can bust the cover off a golf ball for you.

I can assure you that CF does NOT keep Earth in its orbit around the Sun! sky72
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I can assure you that CF does NOT keep Earth in its orbit around the Sun! sky72
Don't start that $%^& again!
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does the staight line thrust of #3 from the top go to the inside aft quadrant of the ball or does the straight line thrust of #3 from the to go to the hand location at impact ?
Either . . . or it could go to the Aiming Point . . . keep in mind the Aiming Point rests on the Delivery Line . . . so if you use the Geometric Plane Line then it's on the Plane Line typically forward of the ball for anything shorter than a 5-iron. If you use an Angle of Approach procedure employing the 10-5-E Closed Plane Line then your Aiming Point would actually be Cross Line on the 10-5-E line to right field.

Get you a buddy or a something to stick the band to the ground. Play around with it. One thing that you will definitely notice is that since the band represents the direction of Thrust . . . from your vantage point as the player . . . Thrust will always be Cross Line regardless of the procedure you employ or what Delivery Line/Alternate Target Line you choose.
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is there an arc of the hands from release point to impact hand location with the line delivery paths? would this arc of the hands make it so the straight line thrust from the top to release or the straight line thrust from top to impact hand location are not equivalent?
would a straight line path from top to impact hand location lead to "too much foward lean" and/or swaying?
Deliver LINES are for the Clubhead and Delivery PATHS are for the Hands. If you have a chance to look over the Delivery Path pics in Chapter 10 you'll notice that even with the Straight Line Paths there is an "arc" at the bottom. So this would be the Pulley portion of the Endless Belt. So you can jack your swing up by using Straight Line Delivery Path and a very small pulley and Maximum Trigger Delay ala Sergio. The opposite would be to use a big CIRCLE Path ala Tom Watson.

Not only is there an "arc" at the bottom, but there can also be an Arc at the Top really End. So if you are a Swinger and go to End, then you would Arc back to the Straight Line portion of the Delivery Path. But the Hitter who Ends at Top is basically stopping his backstroke at the TOP of the Straight Line Delivery Path and thus has no need to Arc back from End to the Straight Line Portion. So there can be a Pulley at the top of the Belt and the bottom.

The hands will always move in a circular path somewhere because they are connected to the arms and thus to the shoulders. Keep in mind . . . only thing round about a circle is its circumference . . . everything else is a straight line . . . Radius, Ray, Tangent, Diameter etc. Mr. K said that even with Circle Path the effort is straight line . . . I think that's in there somewhere.

Don't know if I answered your question though.
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