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Old 10-04-2006, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt

Thanks for the reply Lynn. I didn't infer from it that he wanted to introduce extraneous movement, but noticed that it was a 'different' way of phrasing things.

I would think that having your head stay down too long is a problem that doesn't develop overnight. Usually, when I Swing, the pivot rotation brings the head around and up automatically past impact. Perhaps too many Basic and Acquired motion strokes? Not really sure where I'm going with this other than to further my understanding of interdependency within a stroke.

Matt,

I know Jeff has been doing some work on this lately. I'm sure he will be happy to weigh in and share his thoughts on the subject.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:39 PM
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I'm with you - I'd rather hang out with more intelligent, better looking, cleaner life forms! I'm assuming that's what you meant- of course as Head Honcho I know you can't say that directly!

P.S. Please don't take his post personally he's a very angry individual!

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Old 10-05-2006, 02:07 AM
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Thanks for letting us in on such a great session. So many pearls of wisdom. I will watch these over and over.

",,,like your arms are gonna fly out of their sockets down line,,,"

",,,hit it as hard as you can and just stop the follow through,,,"


BOOM

Demonstrating the rolling left wrist on the horizontal plane,,,

",,,the club overtaking the hands, ahh it overtook em', but the left wrist stayed flat,,,"

Setting the hands in impact alignment and keep em' there all the way down,,,



Not worthy also seems like an understatement.

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Old 10-05-2006, 03:38 AM
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Finally got a chance to watch them last night and all I can say is a THANK YOU!! Great stuff and a lot of things to digest and go over in the old noggin.
Yoda, Jeff. Thanks for your time and effort in this video series.
How much are flights to the Swamp again?? My X-Wing is not working
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:06 AM
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Great stuff. Interesting that Jeff states he's able to think mechanically while playing a round. Jeff, do you limit how many things you key on, like what keeps you in precision that day? Or do you have a checklist that you go through?
I know this may sound strange but I am totally lost without a mechanical thought. In fact I tried to play for a while only focusing on the target and I hit the ball all over the place.

Just like a computer I try to imput the information I need to hit every shot. Once the information is in I rehearse the pattern and look,look,look in order to make sure it is correct (everyone thinks I am trying to copy Weir or Dimarco but I have been making downstroke waggles for a long time). Once I am satisfied I pull the trigger.

I have found that if I only focus on the pattern that produces the shot I need, I do not worry about hazards on the course. It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt
Thanks for the reply Lynn. I didn't infer from it that he wanted to introduce extraneous movement, but noticed that it was a 'different' way of phrasing things.

I would think that having your head stay down too long is a problem that doesn't develop overnight. Usually, when I Swing, the pivot rotation brings the head around and up automatically past impact. Perhaps too many Basic and Acquired motion strokes? Not really sure where I'm going with this other than to further my understanding of interdependency within a stroke.
Matt,
I have many "different" ways of phrasing things that often get taken out of context, so don't feel bad. My head stays "down" too long past impact in my opinion because of years of playing golf with a hang back, swing up motion. There are many bad habits that become engrained in our early years and this is one of mine.

I actually like the position of my head, I only wish it would swivel faster to finish. In fact, when I make practice swings and work on acquired motion drills, my head is in much better position.

Like I said in the video, the ball is long gone so its not something I am going to stress over, just practice a little more.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM
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I know this may sound strange but I am totally lost without a mechanical thought. In fact I tried to play for a while only focusing on the target and I hit the ball all over the place.

Just like a computer I try to imput the information I need to hit every shot. Once the information is in I rehearse the pattern and look,look,look in order to make sure it is correct (everyone thinks I am trying to copy Weir or Dimarco but I have been making downstroke waggles for a long time). Once I am satisfied I pull the trigger.

I have found that if I only focus on the pattern that produces the shot I need, I do not worry about hazards on the course. It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
I think you are on to something. . . .

All these Mental Guru's talk about Process Thinking versus Outcome Thinking . . . But then they tell you to focus on the target. Ain't that the "outcome?" I would say mechanics HAS to be the PROCESS . . . Period. I think Chapter 5 is HUGE in this regard.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:23 AM
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It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
This is one of the best things I have read in a long time.

It is the Fifth Programming Routine of Chapter 14 -- a complete shift from "Ball Action" to "You Action."

It is the non-emotional execution of your procedure.

It is the Mental Game in a nutshell.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the video

Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
Thanks for the video

Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
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