Is there a feel or something i can do to get a better sense of actually having somewhat of a cup at the top by keeping my left wrist cocking in a verticle motion not arching it on the way up and doing so with the right elbow bending up plane. I fight getting the club shut at the top and this makes the club a bit laid off. If i try to correct this by using more of a start up swivel then i tend to get the club underplane even more. If anyone has some pics to post this would be great of what everyone would like. Tomorrow i will post a couple of pics of me. I will post one of the hands at address and another of the top of swing. Thanks for all the input and its greatly appreciated.