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Old 11-27-2006, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
Not sure what you mean.

All I mean I guess it that even if the ball position stays the same in relation to your feet it can still be changed in relation to your left shoulder by altering stance width and weight distribution.

So basically my thinking is that ball postition in relation to the left shoulder is the most important part of ball position.

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I know you know this I was just clarifying for the sake of this thread. (and Mr. libero here)
birdie_man,

Thanks for the clarification.

I was just trying to be funny. Different TGM A.Is teach you differently. Some espouse one ball position in relation to the left heel, yet another a constant ball position in relation to the left shoulder.

Yes, to have a constant ball position in relation to low point means a different ball position in relation to the feet assuming the stance does narrow and widen for different clubs.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:16 PM
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Hi birdie,
sorry for not being clear enough... but you got the message.
I mean just that,I consider my aiming point the point where
my divot starts. That is the visual reference point I'm
referring to,the point where I direct my thrust,for all my irons with the ball grounded.
I don't know if that is the same concept of AP in terms of TGM.
So,as with the driver I dont take divots my visual reference point
is missing and that's why I was asking where I should direct my
thrust with the driver,just at the back of the ball?
More,I need an explanation on the difference between Low point and
Aiming point.

Slinger,
thank you,i will study that stuff.
And thank you for the invitation.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:45 AM
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Ya the ball if anything.

Not as important with a driver.

Just make a motion man.

Smack the thing.

Give ER.

However you want to say it.

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No time for other stuff will try to get back to it. Sorry man bedtime for ol Paul here.

Hope it's helpin thusfar.

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Old 11-28-2006, 11:46 PM
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K here's the rest...

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Aiming Point - where you direct your stroke basically……and technically it's where you aim your HANDS....but your image of where the clubhead takes a divot is a good one....just make sure u know the hand Alignments always too. (nothing worse than hittin it good and having such a vague idea of what you were doing that you can't repeat it)

Low Point - relating to TGM terms it is opposite of the left shoulder.

Look in a mirror and swing your arm back and fourth like an elephant trunk...the lowest your hand can get is under the shoulder. The left shoulder is the center of the circle...your left arm is the radius (2 arm lengths being the diameter OF COURSE....lol)....your hand is the "satellite orbiting in a circle" if you know what I mean.

Now...obviously the club can bottom out before it is underneath the left shoulder right? (say the ball is back for example)

Why??

Basically...when you Bend the left wrist (Flattening the right wrist) it moves down....i.e. when you Release.

This is why ppl who FLIP (ppl who have Clubhead Throwaway...ppl who CAST....however you want to put it) hit a lot of shots fat and thin and pop up their drivers. Flipping makes for an inconsistent and unreliable low point.

And really.....to make the image clearer....you can think of the left wrist as the center of a circle too (errr maybe half circle unless your wrist is REALLY flexible)....if you just sit there at Address and swing the club back and fourth from JUST the wrist you can see this too.

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Hope that don’t screw you up too much ...but u asked for it!.....and that is how it works.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:54 AM
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Hi birdie,
why! that was all very helpful.
I'll have better check points for my swing now.
Thanks again.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:50 PM
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You are welcome libero.

Good luck.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by libero
Hi,
I understand the aiming point concept (in front of ball) for all
full iron shots,with the ball lying on the ground..but when you strike the ball off a tee-peg with the irons or especially with the driver,where is your aiming point or,better,what is your
aiming point? (if any).
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Hi Libero,

My take (and 50 cents will get you 1/2 a cup of coffee) .

Aiming point is not necessarily in front of the ball for all irons. Homer used the example of using the ball as an aiming point for a 5 iron (hypothetical). In this case, aiming point for shorter irons would most likely be in front of the ball and longer behind the ball.

However, I do believe Homer was dead on when he said your aiming point is best found through trial and error due to everyone having different handspeed, ball placement, etc.

Hope this helps.

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Old 12-04-2006, 01:00 AM
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:18 PM
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Hi phillygolf,
so sorry I saw your post only today. Many thanks for clarifying
the aiming point concept.
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