Watching some video from the other day I noticed that I have a "LOT" of hip turn going back. I had been seeing the club go back okay and then when it was suppose to be going up it was behind my butt. As I worked on the right arm takeaway I thought I corrected the problem and I had not. So I got to looking at the pivot, I have been scared to death to transfer my weight to my right side but have been trying to load my weight into the inner right thigh. What I found is that I am not really getting into that leg at all and look to be getting to my left to quick from the massive hip turn (Like a fast Hogan or S&T). The massive hip turn on the down swing starts to fire but stal's out and there is no chance to clear like lets say Duval or Hogan with the butt facing the DTL at impact.
So, I decided to pull out the drawing board and work on different pivots and hinge points. The pivot I have landed on is as I am taking it back with my right hand/forearm I move into my right leg lateral, but I do not slide over it. What this lets me do is the slight lateral move to the right leg keeps the hips still from over turning as I get the club to waist high out in-front of me.
Then I started playing with hinge points, and what I found was kinda neat. So, the club is waist high and the lateral right has keep the hips from turning much. I start to hinge the club up like it is going through my ear, but on video it is splitting my right arm. I have tried to go to the top like this but the club looks a little across the line, so what I did to correct that is to hinge by pushing the palm of the left hand away from me laying the club off a bit.
As I am reaching the top, my hips have started to turn, but change direction from the lateral left pivot. I let the hands then free falls back to the aiming point and I am clearing much better from the lack of the massive hip turn on the back swing.
I have been trying to work the shot process out to what I am consistently getting, I will hit a high push, a low pull, and nice draw. I believe the high push is I am underneath on the way down and the hands do get to the aiming point, the low pull me flipping and not getting to the aiming point, and the nice draw well is free flowing. What I am not quiet finding is my patten cut/fade what I have been trying to do is hit the outside to cut/fade the ball but I do not like this. With my swing the One Plane Cut I try to attach from the inside with a hard rotary motion and basically hit a push/draw that fades at the end. I am all about learning though and, I am trying to put all the pieces together here. Like I had mention in another post, TGM has a lot of things that interest me and that I already believe in before finding LB's forum.
If anyone wants to chime in on what I have mention above to the motion of the lateral right to lateral left pivot please feel free. We can only learn from one another mistakes and achievement's.
Thanks,
BurleyGolf-
Last edited by BurleyGolf : 04-05-2009 at 01:10 AM.
By pushing the palm of the left hand away it causes 2 problems.. The first is that you are using the left hand in a dominant way, and Second its not a true left hinge like LB shows in his video. So, what I did to correct this is; I gripped tighter with the thumb and forefinger making sure the left was not active, and the tried to acquire the same feel.
I would like some thoughts on the lateral pivot motion above, let me know if you think it is a good idea, or it is just plain stupid. I will try to put up a video to show you guys but still would like some insight or opinion's about how I have described it above.
I'm pretty sure there should be no lateral hip movement in the backswing.
While maintaining a stationary head, in startup your right hip turns behind you, clearing the way for the hands (clear your right hip slightly at address if you're a hitter).
On the downswing your hips slide laterally (only) an inch or so, altering your spine angle, which allows your hands (and right shoulder) to work down plane. The Downstroke waggle is your friend here (3-F-5). Check it out!
Nice one Andy. 10-14-B Slide Hip Turn. Hitting or Swinging in the 7th. A slight slide to shift the weight left with a delayed Hip Turn. Thats the way I do it although I try to get that little slide parallel to my hitters cross line Delivery Line, Angle of Approach before Im at Top or End with longer clubs. Trying to anyways like V.J. Trolio suggests. With shorter clubs Im pretty much just staying on my left side but doing much the same with the cleared right hip.
I had formerly thought of the Pivot as being turn, turn , turn. I guess most people do, but then most people also wonder why their swinging outside to in. Pivot to hands, roundhousing. Overly active turning can take you off plane going back or through. Mr Kelley was bang on about the Right HIp needing to be cleared in both directions which to me feels like Im not turning my hips actively through the ball at all. It just sort of happens on its own, you cant stop it really. Going back yes for sure, im clearing the Right Hip or my right shoulder is ("top down") but going down Im leaving it back. The slide is the "ground up", "swinging from the feet" Startdown move, no turn needed.
As far a lateral on the backswing, I think that Luke in his chosen pattern utilizes a little Hula Hula Flexibility in his backswing....a little lateral slide of the hips before the right hip turns back. For him its a Slide with a Delayed HIp Turn in both directions.
Lots of options, millions or is it trillions? To each his own.
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