Tomasello on Swinging....

[300Drive]

For those who have watched the Tomasello videos, what is your take on Tomasello's swinging description. Especially the early wrist set and also the idea of "the elbow being close to the body" throughout the backswing and before the release through the ball?

Thanks

[PChandler]

300Drive

No authority here but I have viewed the TT DVD about 10 times now. I get something new/different each time I watch it. I had been a "confused swinger" or a "wanna be hitter" going back and forth depending on what stroke pattern I was attempting when I hit a "bad shot". And I was starting my "swing" from impact fix. Based on TT video I recently went back to starting from a classic mid-body hands position and have stayed with "swinging" and using that early wrist set you mentioned. I also like the idea of the right elbow being close to the body. That keeps me from roundhousing around my 240 lb frame. But what really connected for me was pivoting through completely to the left side on every stroke. He was describing me when he said most bad shots are caused by not pivoting completely, be they short pitches or full strokes. I need to remind myself from address to the the top to the finish much more than I do.

For his 10 step drill, I can see where many might not like the "at the ball, at the ball" for 6 to 7, but I just feel like the stroke goes from 6 through 7 (impact) to 8. And I am sure he did too.

When he speaks of the head going with the ball I always imagine Annika's swing.

Thats my take. Again no authority but I will continue to watch the DVD provided by another forum member as much as I can.

PChandler

[JohnThomas1]

I finally got a chance to have a proper round of golf today after only a few range sessions and one half round in a month. I honed in on Tommy's loading keys amongst others and damned if i didn't hit the ball superbly considering how much i've been hitting. I must watch the DVD yet again, there's many more gems to find.

[mattsdad]

DG,

First of all, thank so much for making the Tomasello videos available for viewing. I have watched them all once, and am now going over them again at a more leisurely pace. You are right that several viewings are necessary as there is a lot of information in each segment.

Prior to beginning my study of The Golfing Machine about six months ago, I had read and viewed material by Mark Evershed (The Canadian Move book and the Knowledge video). After seeing the Tomasello tapes, it is clear why Evershed mentions his lessons with Tomasello as being the seminal point in his development as a golfer and instructor.

Do you know if there are any significant differences between what Evershed now teaches and Tomasello's views on swinging? On the surface both methods seem to be very similar. Any insights would be appreciated.

RT

[mattsdad]

DG,

Thanks for the info. I am glad to hear that most of concepts Evershed teaches now align with what he learned from Tomasello. I think the Knowledge video and the Tomasello clips complement each other very nicely. I have found that Evershed goes into more detail on certain concepts (such as the quiet body), whereas Tomasello's explanation of how the hands work, and sequencing are presented better. When I first started applying some of Evershed's concepts, I misunderstood how the hands worked (this was prior to my venture into TGM). In executing the right wrist bend, I also was bending the left wrist and destroying the left arm flying wedge. A lot of shots to the left of left resulted.

In the past couple of weeks I have rewatched the Evershed video along with applying the teachings of Tomasello and am quite pleased with the results. Contact is better and my misses are nowhere near as bad as they used to be. Better yet, I am beginning to know WHY I missed a shot and am able to correct the fault more quickly. I still need to work a lot on extensor action, and a visit to an AI is certainly in order, but overall things are progressing well.

Also, I think Tomasello's ten-step drill is brilliant. I finally know where everything ought to be and how to get there. Whether I am actually achieving those positions is still open to question, but knowledge is the first step in the right direction.

Thanks again for the feedback, and a big thank you to Yoda, et al, for hosting this site and providing the incredible wealth of information and resources.

RT