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Old 01-27-2005, 06:20 PM
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Angle of approach
I have tried for months to wrap my head around the arc of approach vs. the angle of approach. Is this laser the angle of approach?

http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzell...rdownplane.jpg
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:38 AM
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The Arc of Approach and the Angle of Approach can be seen on the ground 2-C-1 #3. The Arc of Attack and the Angle of Attack is on the Inclined Plane 2-C-1 #2B.

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Old 01-28-2005, 05:08 PM
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The laser is on the ground through the ball. Is that line an extension of the angle of approach through the ball? If the plane board wasn't there, wouldn't that line be the angle of approach?
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:12 PM
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Yes, that line would then be on the ground and the Angle of Approach.

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Old 01-31-2005, 09:55 AM
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The laser line on the ground looks to about 45 degrees to the right of the target line. Is that really the amount of down and out one must direct the right shoulder, right forearm, right elbow, and lag pressure?

Since the clubface is open only 3 degrees at impact, that is why I thought down and out was faintly down and out. I wasn't taking the release interval into consideration, which would redirect the 45 degreee down and out angle of approach to 3 degrees by impact.

Great pic by Manz, if I am finally understaning this.
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:23 PM
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Just to make clear. "Delivery Paths (7-23) guide the Hands but Delivery Lines are needed to guide the Clubhead and the Right Forearm (5-0). The true geometric Plane Line is the Basic Delivery Line. But it has a very useful Visual Equivalent - the curved blur of the Clubhead path during the Adress Routine and again through Release and Impact", which can be executed as an Arc of Approach or its equivalent the Angle of Approach straight line.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:44 PM
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Just to make clear. "Delivery Paths (7-23) guide the Hands but Delivery Lines are needed to guide the Clubhead and the Right Forearm (5-0). The true geometric Plane Line is the Basic Delivery Line. But it has a very useful Visual Equivalent - the curved blur of the Clubhead path during the Adress Routine and again through Release and Impact", which can be executed as an Arc of Approach or its equivalent the Angle of Approach straight line.
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:33 AM
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Hej henning!!

In non TGM terms, just how down and out is down and out, and how far to the right of the target line is the angle of approach for swingers? My belief is that at the end of the BS, if one constructed a line from the right shoulder to the ball, and laid that line on the ground, one would rotate the upper body and right shoulder on that line after the hip slide while keeping the pivot center motionless.


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Old 02-01-2005, 10:49 AM
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Hej DDL!

You use the Angle of Approach or the Arc of Approach to guide the Clubhead and the right Forearm(5-0). This you will see on the ground.

The "Arc" is most compatible with the "On Line" Swing and the "Line" with the "Cross Line Hit" (7-23).

The Angle out toward right field depends on the Plane Angle. Flatter more out to right field and steeper less.

IMO I don´t think that many people use the Arc of Approach and the Angle of Approach. I think it´s easier to trace the true geometric Plane Line with your #3 pp (all three are Visual Equivalents).

What you are talking about is taking your right shoulder to the Turned Shoulder Plane and hopefully your hands too, and then your right shoulder and hands down on that Plane Angle. It´s fine with me if you want to imagine this line on the ground if that helps you, but the Angle of Approach is the blur of the Clubhead path and not for the right shoulder.

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Old 02-01-2005, 12:02 PM
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If I can add- Down and Out is not two moves but one move down an incline swing plane- preferably the one you came up on, out to the ball as the hands drive to the aiming point perparing to put #3 pp on the ball. I think some see it as a dip of the shoulder and then an out move to the ball. The shoulder rides the incline plane.
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