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Old 02-24-2005, 10:07 PM
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Does anyone find that swinging works better with the shorter clubs and htting the longer clubs. I find that swinging the longer clubs I lose a sense of control and consistent ball contact.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: Hit vs. Swing
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Does anyone find that swinging works better with the shorter clubs and htting the longer clubs. I find that swinging the longer clubs I lose a sense of control and consistent ball contact.
Are you using a Hitter’s stroke for any of the clubs and is it successful? A Swinger gives up a lot allowing CF to produce a Horizontal Hinge. Easy to produce- Homer said it can be done in one’s sleep- but it does require I well produced hinge, swivel and roll to be consistent and accurate.

Hitter’s just drive that clubhead to China- straight, hard. The ball should do the same thing each time.

Answer to question: I haven't been able to use a Hit stroke off a tee or with a "flyer lie" so I Swing in both those cases.
The shorter scoring irons because of the shorter backstroke cries for a Hit stroke pattern for me, but I still Swing the longer sticks. I am working toward a Hit stroke for all clubs because of the success the scoring irons have had. And Hitting feels so good. Better than Doom.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:51 PM
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I find I can hit with the driver and swing with the short irons. Swinging with the driver equates to greater motion. The swivel,hinging and swivel makes it difficult to get a consistent strike. Hitting has the feeling of less moving parts and more control of the motion. IT seems like hitting is easier to learn yet no PGA golf instructor I have ever met teaches hitting.
Yoda makes it look effortless I am hard pressed to tell the difference when he hits or swings.
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:25 PM
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I find I can hit with the driver and swing with the short irons. Swinging with the driver equates to greater motion. The swivel,hinging and swivel makes it difficult to get a consistent strike. Hitting has the feeling of less moving parts and more control of the motion. IT seems like hitting is easier to learn yet no PGA golf instructor I have ever met teaches hitting.
Yoda makes it look effortless I am hard pressed to tell the difference when he hits or swings.
I don't think they would even know what pattern they teach and why should they- it's all mix and match. From he low and slow take-away to the pulling down the church bell, fire the hips, roll the wrists- it is all held together with band- aids. The good ones know, even the non-TGM ers, know what works. The problem I see is their ambiguous language that confuses students from one tip to the next.

Before Lynn, nobody taught Hitting- it was the bastard stepchild, the swing for fat old men. Lynn showed what Hitting is and that it is a stroke pattern for everyone.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:49 PM
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Does anyone find that swinging works better with the shorter clubs and htting the longer clubs. I find that swinging the longer clubs I lose a sense of control and consistent ball contact.
I have found that I have to swing a long iron to get a good result, but I can hit a hybrid. I think this is probably because my hitting pattern is three barrelled an does not have enough to send the ball far enough with the low loft of an iron. Anybody else the same?
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Do not forget the DOWN on long irons
Hi precision system.

I often switch from Swinging to Hitting as I cannot clearly see wich one is the best for me! Both are working well and distances are close.

Each going back and forth between the procedures helped me to properly understand the distinct specs of both for the global benefit of my golf game!

Now, regarding your question about distance, I produce rougthly the same distances with both procedures - long to short irons.

I love driving my club into the ground while hitting. But with long irons, the arc of approach is not as steep with wedges. As a result I copiously drive it down to low point as I want to feel a nice contact with the ground I love so much!

This might be the reason you are striving with hitting your long irons a long way: Aren't you forfeiting the "down" because you see a ball positioned more forward in your stance?

Distance is also related to Lag pressure: Do you put and sustain enough lag pressure on your downstroke? I know that when I hit I tend to feel much more Lag pressure than when Swinging.
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