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Old 01-27-2006, 09:55 PM
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hello everyone.

I'm a newbie and have only just got Homer's book so be gentle.

I was reading on another thread about educated hands and to have educated hands they have to be trained to control your pivot. However, everytime i have experimented with this i'm pretty sure its lead to clubhead throwaway. So my question is how can your hands control your pivot and maintain the #4 pressure point? (i'm assuming this causes my clubhead throwaway)

I'd also like to thank Yoda for developing this site. it's an invaluable addition the the book.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
hello everyone.

I'm a newbie and have only just got Homer's book so be gentle.

I was reading on another thread about educated hands and to have educated hands they have to be trained to control your pivot. However, everytime i have experimented with this i'm pretty sure its lead to clubhead throwaway. So my question is how can your hands control your pivot and maintain the #4 pressure point? (i'm assuming this causes my clubhead throwaway)

I'd also like to thank Yoda for developing this site. it's an invaluable addition the the book.
Your interpretation is incorrect...study 1-L, Chapter 4, Chapter 5, section 7-18 and 10-18, the sections 7-23 and 10-23...then read the whole book and every time you see the phrase "Educated Hands" highlight it. Hopefully, then you will start to make the connection and have a ah-haaa moment.

DG
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
hello everyone.

I'm a newbie and have only just got Homer's book so be gentle.

I was reading on another thread about educated hands and to have educated hands they have to be trained to control your pivot. However, everytime i have experimented with this i'm pretty sure its lead to clubhead throwaway. So my question is how can your hands control your pivot and maintain the #4 pressure point? (i'm assuming this causes my clubhead throwaway)

I'd also like to thank Yoda for developing this site. it's an invaluable addition the the book.
Danny - I hope to see you change your name some day soon!
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:29 PM
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Danny - I hope to see you change your name some day soon!
You never know man. He may be talking shank as in stabbin' prison guards. I'd take Danny_Shank over Danny_the_hooker or Danny_ballwasher any day.

Danny . . . do a search on Mike O's post. You have asked a GREAT question in my opinion. Mike O has some sublime stuff on the hands controlling the pivot.

For starters, look at the 3rd thread in this section containing Yoda's video on Delivery Path. It is quite possibly the best 3 minutes of golf instruction you'll ever hear. Study it closely. If you can get the concepts there you are leaps and bounds ahead of most people. For a primer on educated hands read Chapter 4 and 5 in the book. Pay particular attention to what LEVEL is. Next head to the archives and find the Magic of the Right Forearm Primer. Learn what your Right Forearm Flying Wedge is and how to use it to bust up some plane lines.

You have found your home dude. Welcome.

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Old 01-28-2006, 11:13 AM
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Thanks for the pointers guys.

Looks like i've got some study to do...
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:26 PM
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Danny,

Here is a point to remember....Hands don't move Hands (you monitor the stroke with your hands...through pressure points, especially the number 3 pressure point).

DG

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Old 01-28-2006, 08:27 PM
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Ok i've done the reading and i think i realise where i've gone wrong.

Using the hands to control the pivot doesn't mean they physically move the body, just that it's the hands not the pivot being monitored which gives you more acurate feedback as to whether your pivoting correctly.

Is this right?
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
Ok i've done the reading and i think i realise where i've gone wrong.

Using the hands to control the pivot doesn't mean they physically move the body, just that it's the hands not the pivot being monitored which gives you more acurate feedback as to whether your pivoting correctly.

Is this right?
Yes, You've got it.

That's a major hurdle for most golfers new to TGM.

Now...study section 2-N-1 and key in on the phrase "Hip Slide" for the correct pivot motion at the "Beginning" of the downstroke....then go to section 2-0 and try to grasp the concept of the Three Basic Essentials and Three Basic Imperatives while at the same time study the picture in section 1-L of the "Machine" and observe where the plane line is....then read the 21 facts in 1-L again. In fact, I would study the 21 facts until you have a working knowledge of them...this will put one on the road to precision golf...it's worth the study.

DG

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Old 01-29-2006, 10:02 AM
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Ok i'll have a look at that Delaware.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:01 AM
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Yes, You've got it.

That's a major hurdle for most golfers new to TGM.

Now...study section 2-N-1 and key in on the phrase "Hip Slide" for the correct pivot motion at the "Beginning" of the downstroke....then go to section 2-0 and try to grasp the concept of the Three Basic Essentials and Three Basic Imperatives while at the same time study the picture in section 1-L of the "Machine" and observe where the plane line is....then read the 21 facts in 1-L again. In fact, I would study the 21 facts until you have a working knowledge of them...this will put one on the road to precision golf...it's worth the study.

DG
DG~

Noting the location of the horizontal hinge pin and considering the glossary plane line (golf) definition, is the intent of the picture to show where the plane line is or that there are plane lines? Using the book photos containing the plane Mr. Kelley constructed, one could conclude 1-L illustrates the shaft plane line. The glossary definition however has the plane line passing through the ball location. Of course there is an impact plane line and a low point plane line, both using the sweet spot plane.

DRW
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