What's causing my toe-deep divots?
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07-11-2006, 11:20 AM
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What's causing my toe-deep divots?
Hi all. Could a few of you weigh in on the biggest cause of toe-deep divots? Thanks in advance.
Tommy
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07-11-2006, 11:36 AM
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Ur irons fitted?
+ check your balance (should be more on heels)
+ U a slicer?
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07-11-2006, 12:00 PM
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Birdie,
Irons are standard; not fitted.
Not a slicer, but a puller (over the top).
Tommy
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07-11-2006, 12:37 PM
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Ironing things out
WP9,
Divots go left toward the shortstop?
Here is a problem. Going to a more upright lie angle will take away the toe deep divots, but generally cause you to hit it further left. Not something I am sure you want to do.
Change your Impact alignments. Your Right Forearm is most likely too high at Impact and your Wrists are fully Uncocked at Impact rather than Level.
Maybe you could provide a little more information on your stroke?
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07-11-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Worknplay9
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Hi all. Could a few of you weigh in on the biggest cause of toe-deep divots? Thanks in advance.
Tommy
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1) Standing too close to the ball and coming in with a steeper shaft angle than the lie of the club demands.
2) Excessive rolling of the wrists in to impact will bring the club head in toe down.
Both of the above will give the swing and ball flight characteristics that you describe in your other post. But, if the toe gets into the ground first the hosel will usually come around and some balls may fly off to the right as a result.
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07-11-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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Change your Impact alignments. Your Right Forearm is most likely too high at Impact and your Wrists are fully Uncocked at Impact rather than Level.
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Hi Drew
Can you shed some light on how someone might go about correcting the above?
Your analysis is really good. This is very common by the way.
What if someone has a steep sweep release, but otherwise on plane?
Thanks!
Bagger
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07-12-2006, 11:13 AM
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Drewitgolf,
I think you nailed it. My right forearm IS too high at impact, (as well as the wrists uncocked). So, should I practice impact fix, with a lower right forearm, that is, address, impact fix, address, impact fix, etc?
Tommy
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07-12-2006, 12:31 PM
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Leveling out the playing field
Having your Left Wrist Uncocked at Impact will lead to Clubhead Thowaway and toe deep divots. When the golfer, during Release and Impact, continues to Uncock the Left Wrist past the Level condition (4-B-1) rather then using the roll of the Hand, Level Left Wrist and #3 Accumulator with it’s Rhythm thru Impact to Follow-Through (2-P), we are looking at Steering (3-F-7-A); a Horizontal Wrist Motion, and a Bent Left Wrist. So the Left Wrist is not only Bent (which makes the ball go left), but also Uncocked giving excessive toe down divots and a nice “soft” Impact. Centrifugal Acceleration is lost.
Educated Hands understand that the Perpendicular (Vertical) Left Wrist Uncocking Motion is a Clubhead Motion and the Roll is a Hand Motion whether Simultaneous (Hitting) or Sequenced (Swinging) controls the Clubface. Both must be differentiated. Look at the picture of the Golfer’s Flail in 2-K#4 and #5. Let it incubate into the coconut. In fact, I built my own Flail per Yoda’s recommendation. It does not allow Horizontal Wrist Motion. Mine is bolted so that the swingle (club) can not go past the Level condition. Per 4-D-0, when the Wrist Motion throws the Clubface at the ball there will be Clubhead Throwaway (unless using 10-2-D). Having a fully Uncocked Left Wrist at Impact also may zero out the #3 Accumulator giving up almost all Transfer Power.
For the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its Level Wrist to be on Plane the Right Elbow must be bent and on Plane (not run out of Right Arm). We are then able to trace our Plane Line with our Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. All are a by-product of the Right Shoulder being Plane due to proper Waist Bend, Hip Shift; Axis Tilt. All return to their Impact Fix location. If the Right Elbow is straight and high and the Right Shoulder is off Plane at this point, all bets are off.
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07-12-2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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Having your Left Wrist Uncocked at Impact will lead to Clubhead Thowaway and toe deep divots. When the golfer, during Release and Impact, continues to Uncock the Left Wrist past the Level condition (4-B-1) rather then using the roll of the Hand, Level Left Wrist and #3 Accumulator with it’s Rhythm thru Impact to Follow-Through (2-P), we are looking at Steering (3-F-7-A); a Horizontal Wrist Motion, and a Bent Left Wrist. So the Left Wrist is not only Bent (which makes the ball go left), but also Uncocked giving excessive toe down divots and a nice “soft” Impact. Centrifugal Acceleration is lost.
Educated Hands understand that the Perpendicular (Vertical) Left Wrist Uncocking Motion is a Clubhead Motion and the Roll is a Hand Motion whether Simultaneous (Hitting) or Sequenced (Swinging) controls the Clubface. Both must be differentiated. Look at the picture of the Golfer’s Flail in 2-K#4 and #5. Let it incubate into the coconut. In fact, I built my own Flail per Yoda’s recommendation. It does not allow Horizontal Wrist Motion. Mine is bolted so that the swingle (club) can not go past the Level condition. Per 4-D-0, when the Wrist Motion throws the Clubface at the ball there will be Clubhead Throwaway (unless using 10-2-D). Having a fully Uncocked Left Wrist at Impact also may zero out the #3 Accumulator giving up almost all Transfer Power.
For the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its Level Wrist to be on Plane the Right Elbow must be bent and on Plane (not run out of Right Arm). We are then able to trace our Plane Line with our Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. All are a by-product of the Right Shoulder being Plane due to proper Waist Bend, Hip Shift; Axis Tilt. All return to their Impact Fix location. If the Right Elbow is straight and high and the Right Shoulder is off Plane at this point, all bets are off.
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This is strong as train smoke!
Norrin Radd . . . You would however advise a FULLY UNCOCKED WRIST AFTER IMPACT NO?
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07-12-2006, 03:58 PM
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Not goin' off half cocked
Yes, with the key word being "after".
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