typical hand cocking drill

[noproblemos]

I have a question about this drill.
This "Hand Cocking Drill" is the one where you move from your address position directly to the hand cocked position as you can see in the pictures above (Martin Hall). From there you move to the top of the backswing and move through the rest of the swing.

Most TGMers have said that this drill is incorrect from the TGM standpoint because as the way it's explained in most golf books, both wrists are cocked. In TGM, we know that the left wrist is cocked and uncocked while the right wrist does not cock or uncock.

My question: Can this drill be done properly without cocking the right wrist? In the picture above, do you think Martin Hall's right wrist is still not cocked relative to the address position?

[stilltrying]

My question: Can this drill be done properly without cocking the right wrist? In the picture above, do you think Martin Hall's right wrist is still flat?

I don't see how. Doesn't the bending of the right elbow cause the left wrist to cock?

[noproblemos]

I don't see how. Doesn't the bending of the right elbow cause the left wrist to cock?

But in this picture with Martin Hall (who as we all know is well versed in TGM), there is a big change in the clubshaft position, without a big change in the right elbow bend.

[stilltrying]

No expert, but the right wrist looks cocked to me.

[drewitgolf]

[birdie_man]

No expert, but the right wrist looks cocked to me.

Yikes.

It is.

[EdZ]

I have a question about this drill.
This "Hand Cocking Drill" is the one where you move from your address position directly to the hand cocked position as you can see in the pictures above (Martin Hall). From there you move to the top of the backswing and move through the rest of the swing.

Most TGMers have said that this drill is incorrect from the TGM standpoint because as the way it's explained in most golf books, both wrists are cocked. In TGM, we know that the left wrist is cocked and uncocked while the right wrist does not cock or uncock.

My question: Can this drill be done properly without cocking the right wrist? In the picture above, do you think Martin Hall's right wrist is still not cocked relative to the address position?

Looks like it must be cocked to be in that position....

That said, this is a very useful drill in learning how to keep the club 'out in front' of you and to stop from coming too far inside/under plane on the backswing.

If you do this drill, feel that you move the hands 'straight back' along your toe line, and you will note that at hip high everything will 'line up'.

Cocked or not, a worthy drill IMO, especially for the many people who let the hands move 'away' and the clubhead too 'inside' during the very early stages of the takeaway. A very common problem. Helps you feel the hands staying inside and getting 'under' the clubshaft.

[birdie_man]

Fair enough.

[bantamben1]

yeh those pics look screwy. the problem i have have with the cocking drill as a lot of people teach it is that they cock the left wrist as the drill. As mac teaches it it is more about turning the club up the hands plane and the only cocking of the left wrist is a result of how much your right elbow bends. in that picture with martin his elbow hasnt bent from address, most people who do this will overcok the club at the top and then tend to throw it away right from the top.

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

Great points made here. Start the club back with the heel of the club head, turn to the plane and then cock UP. If your too inside or you didn't cock correctly, it will be hard for you to get the back of the left hand(righty golfer)down on the ball.