Please give your opinion of the right arm swinging procedure as catalogued by Mr. Kelley. I too admire D.G.'s advocacy of the procedure and never mean to demean him or the procedure in any way. In fact, my goal here is to continue learning, and as I have stated privately, only through you and those few who had direct contact with Mr. Kelley can his real intent be discerned.
Please give your opinion of the right arm swinging procedure as catalogued by Mr. Kelley. I too admire D.G.'s advocacy of the procedure and never mean to demean him or the procedure in any way. In fact, my goal here is to continue learning, and as I have stated privately, only through you and those few who had direct contact with Mr. Kelley can his real intent be discerned.
EC
I have several such discussions on tape, EC. And as stated in my prior post on this subject, my intent is to post the audio on this site for all to hear. In other words -- borrowing from the theme song of Mr. Ed (the talking horse of the 1960s sitcom) -- we will...
"go right to the source,
And ask the horse."
I'll hold off for now: The Real Deal is coming. This time...
There is one way we could really settle the right arm swinging action....get Jodie Mudd to comment on it....did Jodie use a swinging stroke pattern like the procedure taught by Tomasello on his Australia tape....from my observations of Jodie's swing, it appears that he used a swinging procedure that used a right forearm driving action...hence the right arm swing...if you digest Tommy's video (multiple viewings)....just checkout Ernie Els book "How to Build a Classic Golf Swing", Els sounds exactly like Tomasello....a good starting point is page 41 of Ernie's book...
Until you have mastered an automatic release with the right arm swing...you will then begin to understand it's awesome power in addition to it's awesome accuracy. There is no separate hitting action at release. As Tomasello says...it's "One Smooth Motion"....reference 10-24-E and 1-L #7 and #10. The golf swing starts to feel effortless once you master the automatic release (make that an automatic snap release), I'm starting to TRULY understand Els swing. Yeeee Haawwwww
EC,
I am not "authorized" to be considered an expert on the golfing machine, however, Homer must have put "right arm" Swinging in the book for a reason. I have video footage of Jodie Mudd and discussing his procedure to a bunch of his cronies....I will send it to you to view for yourself. You must also read Golf - O - Metrics by Joe Norwood...you can check it out at the library in Pinehurst. It is not even close to the same league as Mr. Kelley's beautiful work with the "Machine" but to those like yourself who have an "open-minded" approach to learning might find some value in it. Longitudinal Acceleration of the clubshaft at Start Down with the right forearm . The deal is the location and alignment of the right elbow and forearm in relation to the secondary lever (7-3). I personally have felt the "twinge" in my right elbow from the right elbow becoming the "center" of the stroke, resulting in many "pull- hooks, fat shots, throwaway. etc..." because of my "trial and error" style of learning. I was misled early on in my training in the"Machine" that swinging was only"Left-sided' and hitting is only "right-sided". The truth is in 1-F,7-3.10-3 B 2nd and 3rd editions . I wonder what happens when you combine a major stroke like pitch or"slap" (10-3) with a minor stroke like "pull" 10-3 D. To know the machine is to "apply" the machine... I would highly encourage trying more than just the "two" of its recommended uncompensated stroke patterns. Maybe perhaps read all 6 published editions when studying a particular concept or component. It might help you find more "nuggets" of insight. It was great to see you and Scottie B last week, I always learn something in our discussions. Theory is exactly that ... a theory, but real power comes in the application of theories to realize their truth or their misses.
The Force is with you....use the Force,
Annikan[/b]
EC,
I am not "authorized" to be considered an expert on the golfing machine, however, Homer must have put "right arm" Swinging in the book for a reason. I have video footage of Jodie Mudd and discussing his procedure to a bunch of his cronies....I will send it to you to view for yourself. You must also read Golf - O - Metrics by Joe Norwood...you can check it out at the library in Pinehurst. It is not even close to the same league as Mr. Kelley's beautiful work with the "Machine" but to those like yourself who have an "open-minded" approach to learning might find some value in it. Longitudinal Acceleration of the clubshaft at Start Down with the right forearm . The deal is the location and alignment of the right elbow and forearm in relation to the secondary lever (7-3). I personally have felt the "twinge" in my right elbow from the right elbow becoming the "center" of the stroke, resulting in many "pull- hooks, fat shots, throwaway. etc..." because of my "trial and error" style of learning. I was misled early on in my training in the"Machine" that swinging was only"Left-sided' and hitting is only "right-sided". The truth is in 1-F,7-3.10-3 B 2nd and 3rd editions . I wonder what happens when you combine a major stroke like pitch or"slap" (10-3) with a minor stroke like "pull" 10-3 D. To know the machine is to "apply" the machine... I would highly encourage trying more than just the "two" of its recommended uncompensated stroke patterns. Maybe perhaps read all 6 published editions when studying a particular concept or component. It might help you find more "nuggets" of insight. It was great to see you and Scottie B last week, I always learn something in our discussions. Theory is exactly that ... a theory, but real power comes in the application of theories to realize their truth or their misses.
The Force is with you....use the Force,
Annikan[/b]
Skywalker,
Can you post some of the info regarding the right arm swing from the 2nd and 3rd per 1-F, 7-3, 10-3-B as you indicated...I think it would enlighten us all....thanks for your input.
DG,
I had typed in a reply and it was an "all-star" and the "dog ate it!" No just kidding, Don't have a dog ...Yet!!! It's IMPORTANT to distinguish between a Left Arm Stroke while utilizing right arm participation(10-3-B-Pitch) vs. a Right Arm Stroke utilizing right arm participation(10-3-K-Bat). As stated before. I am not an authorized expert...Don't claim to be ... Don't want to be!!! However I am a former machine addict who is "backslidin" with forums such as this "Really Cool One" set-up by Lynn Blake. Right Arm Swinging - replaces the Left Shoulder as the center of the clubhead arc with the right elbow (10-3-K) Left Arm Swinging with right arm participation still maintains the Left Shoulder as the center of the stroke...It is still "Left-sided" with its alignment and application of force... This is what I believe Jodie Mudd is describing. The tapes of Jodie Mudd are very low in quality and are borrowed from some friends of mine. I'll see what I can do!!!
When utlizing right arm participation it is important to adjust the Wrist Action(Swivel into Standard Wrist Action during Start-Up), Hand Speed, and Lag Loading, to comply with the proper wrist alignments for a sequenced release via a wrist throw, not a right arm throw which tends toward the hitters simultaneous release motion and now you have 4 Barrel Hitting, NOT SWINGING!!! Right Arm Swinging in the "Book" is what some of my peers have taught with the ole you gotta "Stay Connected and Spring the Shaft"...which I felt was actually Hitting... Again...I have always been a GUINNEA PIG or Lab RAT willing to test anything just to see what would happen. That' s How you learn the "Yellow Book" ...Go try it ... the worst that can happen is don't do it again and go back to what you were doing before... Mama said, "Don't touch the stove or you'll get burnt...What did we all do...even today my beautiful 9 Month old understands..."NO!"
DG, thanks for your interest in right arm participation...like 1-F says the "mystery of golf fades away when right arm participation is understood and then can be utilized...PARAPHRASED ... probably with errors!!! Keep up the quest... Hopefully I'll be able to post more before my wife finds out!!! She's the Boss and a Great One for putting up with my "Machine Addiction".
This sounds like what Mr. Tomasello(Jodie's teacher before Mac) was teaching. He did want the left shoulder to be the center of the STROKE, but utilized right arm participation.
The Austrailian Version... was a little different.
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